[Eastern Tackle]

Live bottom in 40 fathoms = wahoos

I like a 64oz trolling weight with 15' of 200lb mono connnected right to the lure with a stranded cable hookset. A cup faced hex shaped lure has been my money lure in black ands..

 

[flyguy]

Saw a Larry Dahlberg and Patrick Sebile on TV at the Great Barrier reef trolling around 20knots with big Sebile Bonga Jerk (if memory serves).

 

[porcha]

^do you mean 4-6oz?

200# mono but could I get away with 130# shock mono?

How far behind a head boat should I troll? Night troll productive?

Thanks for everyone's replies thus far

 

[buddyclaude]

Wahoos do school up and they like structure...but no, they aren't reef fish like ajs.

Years ago there was a radio report of a "wahoo tree" floating 50 miles south of Pensacola that yielded over 50 wahoo in two days of fishing,,,,

 

[buddyclaude]

130 might do if your lure is not too heavy and you do not have a trolling weight in tow, The smaller lures in my previous post could be run with a 130 shock leader tied to the cable hook set. And he did mean a 64 ounce trolling lead. That would require 200. The distance varies with the stern waves of the boat. It could be on the back side of the second wave, most likely a bit further back. Too far and it becomes too difficult to reel in without stopping the boat.

I personally have never had luck at night trolling though mostly it has only been at dusk. I have even tried some battery powered lures but never any luck. Has anyone ever caught wahoos night trolling???

^do you mean 4-6oz?

200# mono but could I get away with 130# shock mono?

How far behind a head boat should I troll? Night troll productive?

Thanks for everyone's replies thus far

 

[mitchman]

^do you mean 4-6oz?

200# mono but could I get away with 130# shock mono?

How far behind a head boat should I troll? Night troll productive?

Thanks for everyone's replies thus far

The shock leader weight rating isn't going to matter if the rig is hooked up to 40lb mono and trolling a 2-3lb rig at 15 knots. Your best bet is to fill the 4/0 with 80lb braid and pray....

 

[jig]

I looked into this for the same reason. Here is a great site I found:

Ron Schatman Trolling Methods from Wahoo King

I made a homemade trolling rig. A 24oz torpedo, with 275# cable crimped to front and back, about a foot long each. Loop crimped on front, snap swivel on rear. Then I made a 12' 200# mono leader, loop at front (to attach to trolling weight snap), snap at rear (to attach to wire leader on the lure), then a wahoo lure from Williamson that was small, and only $5. After fishing party boats for 30 years, got my first wahoo a few weeks ago on this rig.

HOWEVER, I am done with the trolling weights at high speed. Even with only 24oz, it was flat out scarey. The pull on the rod was too much, and none of the trolling clamps would hold. I got by with a cross section of bike innertube that I used to hold the line down by the reel to take the pressure off the reel.

 

[Eastern Tackle]

^do you mean 4-6oz?



130lb jerry brown off a 50wide straight to a 64oz trolling weight. behind that 15' of 200lb mono to the lure.

 

[jig]

on a cone type trolling lure, any reason to not rig with one large 3/0 treble ST66? seems like it would run smoother.

 

[Ron Z]

Andy
Been working on a high speed troller RONZ with wire internal wire harness, so far been gettint great test results. Should be just the ticket for those who fish.

 

[d-a]

on a cone type trolling lure, any reason to not rig with one large 3/0 treble ST66? seems like it would run smoother.

A single hook will run smoother, and cause less tangles. There is proper ways of rigging and hook point locations.

d-a

 

[d-a]

on a cone type trolling lure, any reason to not rig with one large 3/0 treble ST66? seems like it would run smoother.

A single hook will run smoother, and cause less tangles. There is proper ways of rigging and hook point locations.

d-a

 

[jig]

I was going to rig it with the hook just outside the end of the skirt. Done this way, wouldn't a symetrical treble run smoother? Do you have any links/pics to the rigging/hook point locations?

 

[d-a]

I was going to rig it with the hook just outside the end of the skirt. Done this way, wouldn't a symetrical treble run smoother? Do you have any links/pics to the rigging/hook point locations?

I will look and see if I can find something. There was a few tutorials on other forums a while back.

When high speed trolling, over 12 knots, the skirt will stretch. That why hook location is critical as well as hook orientation once you hook the fish.

d-a

 

[jig]

Would this work? Trolled with 130# braid to BB snap swivel, to 12' 200# mono leader with snap swivel, to swivel on lure cable. The cable on lure would be "stiff rigged" with enough beads between crimp in front of lure, to crimp at hook, to make it stand out. Or I could just place additional crimp with single bead after the egg sinker string, so there is about 6-8" of bare cable. Hook would be placed about a half inch to one inch past skirt.

 

[CAPTDAVEMIAMI@YAHOO.COM]

My 2 cents worth.
Forget treble hooks!!!! Use big (11/0,12/0) trolling hooks rigged in line,points down(act like a rudder)with 1/2 inch of hook outside end of skirt.Wahoo like to wack off the tail so the way back location works great.
As for weight 24 oz. or less is the way to go .Anything heavier is just crazy.
If you troll a Banchee lure,or others, they weigh 1 to 4 lbs I believe and don't need a trolling lead.
Most people I know use about 40 ft. of 200 to 300 lb leader between sinker and lure.
Lead Enterprise here in Miami makes trolling sinkers with heavy cable molded right into sinker ,makes rigging even easier .

 

[bucketboy]

How about one of these? Tuna Fishing Tackle, Striped Bass Lures, Carlson Fuku Squid - Maverick Fishing Tackle

Bb

 

[KeysDH]

I really like the BallyHood lures. But, If you don't want have to troll fast, I have had substantial success running a blue white, purple black, or orange black on a 24 oz. trolling weight while trolling for other species. I don't think my success weight has been that much higher with high speed. Good luck and Tight Lines !!

 

[Flatchaser]

My 2 cents worth.
Forget treble hooks!!!! Use big (11/0,12/0) trolling hooks rigged in line,points down(act like a rudder)with 1/2 inch of hook outside end of skirt.Wahoo like to wack off the tail so the way back location works great.
As for weight 24 oz. or less is the way to go .Anything heavier is just crazy.
If you troll a Banchee lure,or others, they weigh 1 to 4 lbs I believe and don't need a trolling lead.
Most people I know use about 40 ft. of 200 to 300 lb leader between sinker and lure.
Lead Enterprise here in Miami makes trolling sinkers with heavy cable molded right into sinker ,makes rigging even easier .

+1.

 

[Kim]

Randy I've included some pics of the various lures that I troll at high speed and some that I have tried to troll at high speed.

I don't troll the bigger flat faced or cupped lures at high speeds because of the amount of weight that it takes to get them down and keep them there as well as the drag created pulling it through the water. Some examples as follows:

Lures that are pointed and more streamlined will work better. The heavier that the lure is the lighter the trolling weight required. The following are some examples of bigger lures, Mylars and Chaos lures which are my preferred lures. These large lures require no trolling weight and can be trolled up to 20 knots.

These are smaller lures and are trolled behind a 16 oz trolling weight. Some are up to medium sized flat and cup faced lures.

These are even smaller lures but they really work great and are still behind a 16 oz trolling weight. The feathered lures work great but they will last a bit linger if you put some tight wraps of waxed serving around them.

This is the type weight I use, I have never been been bitten off at the trolling weight but there is always the first time. I have some trolling weights that are pre rigged with cable but I never have used them so far.