Venice 7-14

Discussion in 'Offshore Fishing Reports' started by Mitchw123456, Jul 15, 2007.

  1. Mitchw123456

    Mitchw123456 Senior Member

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    We left Bacliff, TX at around 0700 7-13 and were already getting anxious to arrive in Venice. We finally made it to Cypress Cove Marina at around 1600 that afternoon. I decided to go straight there and just hope that they would have somebody cancel on them as they screwed up our reservations I learned the night before. Hastily, I was able to get us a room at the Venice in as back up. We did get lucky and they had one room open so after calling and cancelling at Venice in we began unpacking our gear and began strolling around. After figuring out where we were supposed to meet our captain at the next morning we made our way to the Venice Marina and found some pretty good shrimp and oyster platters along with a couple adult beverages. We sat and ate our dinner and watched a dozen or so boats come in, unload and clean fish from the patio. Everyone had been talking about how slow things had been the last couple days so we weren't filling too optimistic. We did however run into our Capt. that night at the bar and he told us he was off the water by noon with the fish boxes full. However, this is when we found out that the capt we had booked with AND requested was not going to be the one taking us out. Needless to say I wasn't thrilled considering I had no idea to who I was supposed to be meeting at the dock the next morning and I specifically wanted to run with this certain capt...

    Needless to say we made it to the dock the next morning at about 0530 to where we were supposed to meet our capt at 0600. We did not leave the dock until almost 0800! The dock hands were late and we had to wait for the boat to be fueled up. That was strike number 2 as the boat should have been fueled up the evening before (or at least in my book it should have been.) We did however, fair better than a group of guys from TN we talked to as there capt still hadn't shown up by the time we left. Those guys had plans to meet their capt at 0500 to get an early start.

    We finally made it out of Tiger Pass and were on our way to Ursula in which then our capt told us his GPS wasn't working but he said it wasn't a big deal as he could run on sight. This wasn't a bad thing for him as he did know where he was going but I'm sure we didn't quite run as straight as we would have if he would have been able to turn the GPS on and run a straight line versus running from rig to rig to get there. Bait was tough to come by but after a few hours we finally had enough bait to go dosome real fishing. We were greated with many boats already slow trolling live bait around Ursula and things were relativly quiet. We had a few pick ups but never landed anything there. We gave up an hour or so later and ran over towards Mars and then hit a drill ship in the area. We finally were able to find a couple fish there. First fish in the boat was caught by a friend of mine who hd the fish to the boat in no time making it his first yft. Unforunately I missed the pic of him eating the heart.
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    We reset up and within a couple minutes had another one. My dad was on teh rod this time and landed his first yft.
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    After pulling around once again and setting up we had another fish on before the line ever made it into the outrigger. Soon after I boated a decent cow who was still trying to swim away while we were taking the pic (really complicated the holding on part of the pic!)
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    Soon after we pulled back up and set up again and instantly we were hooked up again so I took teh rod to get my first yft.
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    the infamous heart shot
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    *I edited this pic to censor who our capt was.

    We pulled back up and before both baits were in the water my dad had another yf on.
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    That is when the capt told us he was ready to go in. In disbelief we headed the 60 miles in. We caught all of our fish in a matter of 45min to an hour. So basically we got a late start (not our fault,) and made it back to the dock early with only 4 yft. We were not exactly happy about that as we had finally found the fish and now that we had found them the capt was ready to head in to make sure he could beat the other boats to the fuel dock. It definetly didn't bother him the day before as we had to wait for a couple hours on the boat to get fueled up that morning. We still had fun even though we did not fish with the capt that we had booked and also returned to the dock early. We will be returning in January but more than likely with a different outfitter all together. I blacked out our capt as I do not want it to be known who we were with do to our issues with teh boat not being ready and heading in early when we finally did find some fish.

    All in all we had a great time and look forward to returning.
     
  2. Gunsmoke

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    One of these days, I will fish in calm looking water like that. I can't remember the last time I wasn't in 5 foot plus seas. The 14th was 5-6s off Port A. The last two years have been very tough on anglers and boats.

    Mitchw123456, from your pictures, you and your group don't look like lightweights. Why didn't you raise H E L L when the Capt said "Lets pick up the lines and go home". I can understand if you left on time, but from what you said, I'd be furious. I've had a bunch of sorry Capt's in my time. Once I've been taken, that's it. I fire um, blackball um, and try to find someone that is responsible.
     

  3. STx Fisherman

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    Gunsmoke....

    You should go to Venice for your annual dental work in June or July.....:D
     
  4. Deep_Sea_Gull

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    Two things Mitch...

    I would name the charter group you were fishing with. Who you had PAID to fish with and then the sorry azed one that was late and left early. I would not want my fellow fishermen to have any misunderstandings. Those Glacier Bays aren't that unique.

    Second, I would not expect to return in Jan and jack the tunas up. The Lump is a cold shouldered Beeotch. If you got a promise for the next trip from your charter group, use it in Sept or Oct.

    Thanks for sharing the pics and report. I enjoyed them.

    My advice is worth just what you paid for it... :)
     
  5. DeepBlueGulf

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    I too would like to know what charter group you were fishing with. And DSG is right, January and February are well known for the BIG YFT, but it is a cold shouldered beeotch!

    Thanks for the report nd the pictures!

    Tom - DBG
     
  6. Bret

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    Mitch, great report. Sorry to hear about the issues..... but at least you did catch some nice tuna..
     
  7. gman

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    Jan, February are the lump months for the big yellowfin but its also a parking lot and cold as hell. We decided to go the first week in march and the fish had already moved way offshore and were scattered.

    There arent alot of chartres down there, I would rule out Reel Peace because I know they are pretty organized.

    I wouldnt go back with the same guys if you werent treated right and I would flame them so others arent jerked around. They broke the number one rule...

    a charter should never wait on the boat
     
  8. Gunsmoke

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    Gunsmoke....

    You should go to Venice for your annual dental work in June or July.....:D

    I don't think my dentist's wife would let him travel with me. I'm not exactly on her "Fave Five" list. I was told by her to never set foot on their property again.:eek: I got news for her. I'll do what I darn well please. :D

    Venice is having some problems from what I have heard recently. Those Capt's are getting the typical charter attitude. They know they have a unique fishery and will have people lined up every day. Catch the customers a few fish, run back home early, get drunk, sleep late and pick up another group of suckers whenever you feel like it.
     
  9. Mitchw123456

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    I don't think my dentist's wife would let him travel with me. I'm not exactly on her "Fave Five" list. I was told by her to never set foot on their property again.:eek: I got news for her. I'll do what I darn well please. :D

    Venice is having some problems from what I have heard recently. Those Capt's are getting the typical charter attitude. They know they have a unique fishery and will have people lined up every day. Catch the customers a few fish, run back home early, get drunk, sleep late and pick up another group of suckers whenever you feel like it.

    Its funny you say that as I saw a handful of capts in the bar the night before and one of them just happened to be late.. To the PMs I've gotten asking about who the captain was I'm not going to tell strictly because I don't want to say anything bad about the company. The guy was great to bullshit with and I really just think we caught him on a bad day. Keep in mind I did see him at the Venice marina bar and grill though the night before (before I knew he was out capt...........)
     
  10. SkeeterRonnie

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    please name the charter capt you were scheduled with, and the one you went with. it will save a few of us a headache later down the road. WOrd of mouth is the best advertising, and they need to realize this!
     
  11. CAP

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    these guys are in the fishing/entertainment business and an off kilter trip here and there posted up on the net could be damning. Don't get me wrong, I have been pissed a few times about how charters have gone but I have learned to just let them go. My time on the water is his daily grind. I guess that's why I enjoy taking people on my boat and being a guest on someone else's now more than ever. On charters, I bring a few of my own things (It is really hard to do pick) sorta play around within the charter captains game plan and am otherwise laid back and agreeable.

    Nice trip otherwise. Good quality fish with some beautiful weather.

    -CP
     
  12. jaredchasteen

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    I understand about not naming him publicly, that is the reason i sent you a pm. I know several captains down there and was wondering who your trip was with. Please PM me. Whoever the captain was i am sure he has had good days and bad. however there are several who have more bad than good, and several that have more good than bad.
     
  13. Ragman

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    Great report and nice pics!

    There are great Capts and there are not-so-great Capts.

    Great Capts should be praised as that board praise results in more business for them (IMO, that's one of the things that makes them treat each Charter as though it's the only one, and NOT just part of another daily grind).

    If your Capt compensated you for his unreadiness and short trip, you should post that as a reason to not name him. I understand that and everyone has a bad day.

    But, if he just blew you off, you definitely should name him! If not, he continues to run sub-par trips.

    Just speculation on my part, but it could have been guys bringing their boats over from other states to capitalize on the season?
     
  14. bpitcher

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    Sorry you had a bad experience, at least you caught some fish!
     
  15. MrBill

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    That really sucks. One hour of solid fishing and back to the dock. Did you ask for a refund for hours not spent on the water? I hope you didn't give a great tip. I would have told the guy "No fishing time, no tip". :mad:

    I also would have gotten the two biggest guys. Put one at the transom, one at the bow and the Capt at the middle. Charge hard and hit him with a belly bounce simultaneously. You guys could have showed him how to make a
    "Flounder Sandwich".:D

    At least you did have to battle the seas like we had in South Texas this weekend. I talked to a few people today. Two entered the Outboard tournament. One boat was a 34 footer and it took them 2 1/2 hours to hit Aransas Rock. That's only about 35 miles offshore. Both of them fished the Deep Sea Roundup, and said it was rougher than the week before. Neither one of the boats went back out on Sunday. They didn't want to play rodeo two day in a row.
     
  16. Uncle Russ

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    MrBill: I personally blame Al Gore for the wierd weather we have been having.