Tackle Recommendations?

Discussion in 'Tackle and Rigging' started by Pope, Feb 12, 2008.

  1. Pope

    Pope Senior Member

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    Where is the link to tackle recommendations? Someone on 2cool is looking for help.
     

  2. Bill Fisher

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    http://www.360tuna.com/forum/f68/recommended-tackle-list-gulf-mexico-long-range-fishing-61/ ???

    so,...............

    here's a thot that's been on my mind for a while

    a packaged deal

    i wonder if anyone's ever thot of selling a complete 'recommended tackle package' for long range gulf fishing for party boats

    dunno what the market would be for something like, but i do know there are people out there with money that i bet wish they could just go buy the 'package' and not have to piece it together themselves
    (myself include)

    the 'package' wouldn't actually even have to put together (so-to-speak) but put priced as a 'package' with a description of what's included

    it could also be priced and catagorized several ways........

    TOL = Top-pf-the-Line
    intermediate
    beginner

    with reels or without reels (and recommendation for proper reels to match to rods)

    or just a basic package with options availlable for certain items

    even sub-kits with recommended, or favorite, or best-selling popper and jig lure kits, etc...

    anyway,..... like i said,...... just a thot

    there's bound to be others out there that are as-lazy-as me, or probably even more that have plenty o'money and but are too busy to put together a proper 'package' for themselves

    i see this sorta schtuff all-the-time.......... someone with money-to-burn goes into bass pro or somewhere and describes their upcoming trip, flashes a wad o'money, and next thing you know some clueless moronic salesperson is walking'em down the aisles fillin' their baskets with useless (but expensive) junk

    all-inclusive package deals are nothing new, but if i'm not mistaken i bet it would be new to the tackle industry........ (at least to this little niche of the industry)

    or heck, just a published list of recommended schtuff that could be 'checked off' for choices, and sumbmitted for a quote

    (as you can see, i've got WAAAAYYYYYYY too much time one my hands)
     

  3. Uncle Russ

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    Lord help me, I hate that list! TJ should be put in prison for posting it. When I first saw the damned thing, I was having fun fishing in stock ponds and the bay. The most expensive reel I owned was a Stradic 4000. I had money in the bank. Then I took that list and sat down making my own lists and asking for help on this board for about two months. Now I can barely afford to eat. I have no doubt I could have bought a Penn 9500 and put it on my Ugly Stick and done the same thing with an Okuma or old Senator and been a happy camper.

    Did I mention that I hate that list?

    Russ
     
  4. BretABaker

    BretABaker Guest

    realistically you can get away with 2 or even 1 rig, depending on the fishing. jigging with a senator isn't ideal, but it will work fine with a diamond jig.

    I'm just always hesitant about telling someone to go buy hundreds (or thousands) of dollars worth of gear if it's their first time.
     
  5. Bill Fisher

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    well,...............

    here's a thot that's been on my mind for a while

    a packaged deal

    i wonder if anyone's ever thot of selling a complete 'recommended tackle package' for long range gulf fishing for party boats

    dunno what the market would be for something like that, but i do know there are people out there with money that i bet wish they could just go buy the 'package' and not have to piece it together themselves
    (myself include)

    the 'package' wouldn't actually even have to put be together (so-to-speak) but just priced as a 'package' with a description of what's included

    it could also be priced and catagorized several ways........

    Top-of-the-Line
    intermediate
    beginner

    with reels or without reels (and recommendation for proper reels choices that would match to rods)

    or just a basic package with options availlable for certain items

    even sub-kits with recommended, favorites, or best-selling popper and jig lure kits, etc...

    anyway,..... like i said,...... just a thot

    there's bound to be others out there that are as-lazy-as me, or probably even more that have plenty o'money and but are too busy to put together a proper 'package' for themselves

    i see this sorta schtuff all-the-time.......... someone with money-to-burn goes into bass pro or somewhere and describes their upcoming trip, flashes a wad o'money, and next thing you know some clueless salesperson is walking'em down the aisles fillin' their baskets with useless (but expensive) junk

    all-inclusive package deals are nothing new, but if i'm not mistaken i bet it would be new to the tackle industry........ (at least to this little niche of the industry)

    or heck, just a published list of recommended schtuff that could be 'checked off' for choices, and sumbmitted for a quote

    (as you can see, i've got WAAAAYYYYYYY too much time one my hands)
     
  6. Pope

    Pope Senior Member

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    I love the idea and am thinking of stealing it ;)
     
  7. ksong

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    When I visited Korea, they said it cost over $10,000 for initial investment for saltwater tackles to go fishing. Almost every jig fisherman I met had at least one Shimano Stella or Daiwa Saltiga.
     
  8. Ragman

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    Hey Bill Fisher!

    360Tackle does offer this service but doesn't fully promote it.

    I know they've done up to fully equipping a new boat owner and his 48' Viking.

    Send them an email with your budget, acceptable tackle brands, and general info on where you'll fish, what species, and how you'll fish and they'll work up a package deal.
     
  9. fishr1989

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    that sounds like a great idea, and could be a good way to get more people to go on offshore fishing trips, if they knew upfront how much they were going to be spending on tackle.
     
  10. MrBill

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    This thread is interesting because of it's timing. A month ago a relative of mine called me up to discuss fishing tackle. He bought a new house at the coast and a new express-fisherman. Saltwater fishing is fairly new to him. He basically had nothing. I came up with a list of what I thought he should purchase. I was using a Melton's catalog.

    I was amazed myself when I put all the tackle to a calculator. I had selected over 35K worth of tackle. I didn't think I went overboard as I covered all the bases he needed. He was in shock. I quickly reminded him that it was a very small amount compared to the house and boat. He agreed with me and ended the conversation with "Let me see if I can lower my wife's furnishing budget".

    I talked to him again this week. The boat has made it's way from Florida to Texas and is now in the process of getting rigged up. I will be joining him in his first tournament.
     
  11. Bill Fisher

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    Hey Bill Fisher!

    360Tackle does offer this service but doesn't fully promote it.

    Send them an email with your budget, acceptable tackle brands, and general info on where you'll fish, what species, and how you'll fish and they'll work up a package deal.


    >> 360Tackle does offer this service but doesn't fully promote it. <<

    bummer


    >> Send them an email <<

    double-bummer...... told ya was too lazy for stuff like that


    :D JK,...... when and if i get ready i will

    got enough to get me by but i'm thinking of horning in on some o'y'all's venice/south louisiana winter trips sometime if i can (maybe next year?)........... i spend all spring and summer chasing marlin outta SPI then come home. By the time winter rolls around i'm geeking for a saltwater fix......ya see, i live in Louisiana but have a 2nd home and sportfisher docked in Port Isabel

    having been born and raised here in louisiana i've prolly forgotten more about venice than most'll ever know but i'm no longer geared up for that sorta fishing...... i'll eventually pick some reels and then all i'd have to do is get matching rod advice for jigging, casting, and spinning...... the rod mfg'ers have made leaps and bounds in those areas since i've fooled with it

    for other headboat fishing adventures i'd love to join y'all on some o'those excursions but i can't justify going to corpus or other places in Texas when i have a boat and 2nd home in PI....... plus that's summertime when i'm down there anyway and corpus is to far from where i live in louisiana to be going this time o'year

    do they still do any sorta headboat excursions outta south louisiana anywhere?...... i remember overnighters when i was younger (swordfishing too)........ i could be a good deckand for those that haul their own boats over or be a candidate in 6-pack charter thingy or sumpin like that too

    i can pretty much gah-rohn-tee nobody here could spell my last name iffin i were pronounce it for ya :rolleyes: .......... yes i was raised by a family o'coonasses but i've lived in north louisiana and Texas so long i sound just like all the other rednecks.......... lost my cajun accent many years ago

    i've lived in san antonio for a coupla years and Dallas for at least 20 and now been back over here for the last 7+ keeping a promise i made to my dad before'e died
     
  12. Bill Fisher

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    This thread is interesting because of it's timing. A month ago a relative of mine called me up to discuss fishing tackle.

    that's why the package thingy came to my mind...... i can tell someone how to get equipped for marlin and trolling for other big-game right off the toppa my head but when somebody asks me what they need for any headboat or other type fishing all i can do is direct'em toward that recommended tackle list........ and i think it intimidates'em a little too

    i think it's a great list but my reel choices differ and i ain't up on what it would take for quality matching rods
     
  13. Uncle Russ

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    I’ll tell you my sad tale of addiction. My name is Russ and I’m a Gear-a-Holic. Don’t get me wrong—I don’t have as much stuff as many of you, but the sick craving is still there. Way back when I quit drinking, they told me that addictions burst out in other forms—and boy were they right.

    I started out with a 665 and a Cabelas stand up rod.—I figured I needed one rod for near shore snapper and other critters. Then I found this board—and that miserable list! I started sitting around all day making similar lists—filling notebook after notebook—that is no joke.

    Having read tons of advice on this board and other places, and knowing that 90 percent of my offshore fishing would be on either a head boat or a 36 foot type boat with 4-6 other yahoos running up and down the rail like a bunch of rats, I decided early on that I could and should simplify and live with only two rigs—(1) a heavy 50W to cover trolling, deep drop, chunking, and drifting live bait, and (2) a big spinner for all casting, jigging, and even making bait. So I figured if I were going to limit myself to 2 rigs, I could afford pretty good ones, and I bought an Accurate 50W that Rick had cast off like dirty old rag (actually a great reel) with a Calstar 760H and a new Twinspin 30 and spare spool and put that on a Calstar 700H made for Accurate spinners. Now I was set for life.

    But then I made the mistake of not going offshore right away. Instead, I sat at home and at work, reading about the gear that folks like mcgolfer, Mr. Bill, Bill Fisher, Gunsmoke, Kil, and others had accumulated—and I was overwhelmed with an insane desire for more gear----never mind that most of those folks fished offshore a hell of a lot more than I do, or will be able to, and forget the fact that they at least appeared to possess slightly superior means to pay for the stuff than I did. ;)

    So I got to thinking—the Twinspin was great but it had a 6-1 ratio and was not as smooth as the Stella. So I bought a 20,000 and, having read a post somewhere about the 700XH having “…brutal fish-lifting power…”, I had to have one of those as well. Then I saw a video on Randy’s board about the Smith 80P/35. If you don't remember that video, it was one of those where some wiry, super-strong young Japanese stud hooks into a 40 kilo plus Giant Travally, and after much yelling and running around that would do justice to a Chuck Norris flick (before he took to following Huckaby around like a dog), he subdues the GT in about 7 minutes. I was like Snoopy sitting on top of his doghouse, pretending he is fighting the Red Baron. So, being a spinning nut anyway, and loving longer rods, I went into hock for one of those.

    I also picked up a 700H conventional for the 665. So now I was rod-heavy, so to speak, and had to get a Stella 8000 as well--just to balance things out, dontcha know. That led to falling in love with Stellas and Smith rods in general, and realizing I would do more bay fishing than offshore when I retire, over the course of the next 6 months, I sprang for Stella 1000, 2500, and 5000 plus 3 lighter Smith rods (KGS-70MH, KGS-68M and KGS-510L with removable butts to go with them--These rods, by the way are incredible--bay rods on steroids--the first time I saw the OTI seven footer, it reminded me of the 70MH, though it is probably even stronger.)

    That about covered it, except for the need for a true “Rail Rod”, for which I bought a Calstar 7465H with Big Foot guides, and then, the fact that I decided if 8 feet was good, then a 9 foot Souls rod would be even better. Besides, who could resist owing a rod called the "Souls 90HHS True Excalibur!" It's a lot cheaper in the long run than Viagra.

    Still, I did not have a true jigging setup, so I also bought a Smith Nirai for the same reason that Bill Clinton did Monica Lewinsky: “because I could.” But that was going to be the last equipment I would ever buy. (Speaking of Monica, I heard Dennis Miller say on TV last night that "Hillary has been cheated on more than a blind guy playing Scrabble with a bunch of gypsies."

    But back to tackle: Then I saw an ATD 12 and it was true love at first sight, and I sold the 665 and bought a 2-speed. That one broke and so did the next one so I waited a few months to get one with a later serial number. Then I bought one through the mail and it had serial number 342! But I kept it and, now that I know that I don't have to fish 80 pounds of drag on an ultra-light crappie rig, I am going to limit it to 20 pounds of drag so it should be OK--at least for Crappie.

    Then I tried jigging with the Nirai and the 8000 and had trouble hooking up compared to when I fished a buddy’s conventional rig. So I bought both OIT conventional jiggers. I love the 300 and cannot wait for the 600.

    But now I have all the gear I will ever need. I promise. And I've had all my fly gear for years. So I won’t ever buy anything again—oh maybe just one OTI bent butt rod……

    So the message is this—you people should be more careful doing things like: offering a drink to a crazed alcoholic mass murderer, teaching a kid to play with matches, or sharing your gear list with novices. :)

    And to you novices out there: now that Uncle Russ has been on a couple of trips, take it from me--buy a really big rig and super-heavy-duty spinning rig---and you will be fine. Of course, you really do need a true jigging outfit and maybe a....


    Russ