Stella vs Saltiga

Discussion in 'Reels' started by fishr1989, Dec 6, 2007.

  1. fishr1989

    fishr1989 Senior Member

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    I am currently in the market for a spinning reel to jig for tuna and to livebait for sharks (Makos, Blues, Threshers) off the Rhode Island and Massachusetts coast.

    I am torn between the Saltiga Z 6500 Expedition and the Stella 20000. I normally fish all Shimano, but am looking to possibly expand my reel selection to include other brands/or getting a reel like the Stella and then upgrading later. I will be filling the reel with 80lb Power Pro or 80lb Jerry Brown.

    I am not worried about having enough line, as either will hold more than enough for my needs. I would also be interested to hear what rods you would recommend to pair with the reel.

    Tuna Jigs: 200-400
    Sharking: 450lb mono shock leader/topshot, 300lb single strand wire
     
  2. Bill Fisher

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    okaaaaaaaaaaaay..........................................................................

    you can afford to fish "for sharks (Makos, Blues, Threshers) off the Rhode Island coast" and "possibly for Tuna in the Gulf"..............................

    "but, the Stella is currently out of (your) price range"?????

    i'm confused

    you gave us two choices and tell us one of'em's outta yer price range......

    do you wanna know what rods're outta your price range too????????

    <i'm so confused>
     
  3. shanker

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    if you are in that price range, what about the Saltiga DogFight?
     

  4. fishr1989

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    I did consider it, but the dogfight has a 6:1 ratio which is too high for sharking. The average blue we caught last year was 200lbs, and a 6:1 doesn't have enough torque.
     
  5. shanker

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    how importand is torque on a spinning reel? you cannot wind against the drags our you'll twist the line anyhow..

    I have a Fin-Nor OFS95 and although I had an issue with it at first, its since been fixed and has performed nicely.
     
  6. TeamOso

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    a stella 20000 on a breakaway LDX would be prettty unstoppable in the surf!
     
  7. fishr1989

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    the trade with a lower ratio reel is power for speed. with a 4:1 ratio you have the ability to reel in bigger fish with less effort, and with a 6:1 you can reel your lures faster, but it will take more effort (force) to catch a bigger fish.

    this is where a 2-speed comes in handy. if you need to fish a lure fast to get the fish to bite, but they are large, ex. wahoo, tuna on poppers, you can change to the lower gear to fight the fish.

    Tiburon has a reel on the market that will change gears automatically once the load on the reel increases.
    Tiburon
     
  8. fishr1989

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    how importand is torque on a spinning reel? you cannot wind against the drags our you'll twist the line anyhow..

    I have a Fin-Nor OFS95 and although I had an issue with it at first, its since been fixed and has performed nicely.


    it's not about being able to reel against the drag, that's bad no matter what...the torque question is like deciding what you would rather have to pull your boat and trailer...

    A Porsche...low torque...high speed (6:2:1)
    or
    A Diesel Pickup...high torque...low speed (4:3:1)
     
  9. fishr1989

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    what do you think the OTI 7' Popping rod would be like with these reels, spooled with 80lb spectra?
     
  10. MrBill

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    Saltiga Z 6500 Expedition and the Stella 20000 are both great proven reels and are about the same price. Since you are spending that amount of money and your mainly fishing for sharks, I would choose the Accurate Twinspin 30L if I were you. (4:1 ratio)

    Every reel has it's purpose. As far as sheer strength and heavy duty construction, there is not a spinning reel on the market that could out grind the twinspin. Note, it is a heavy reel. Not for the hardcore jigging enthusiast who likes a light weight reel. But if I targeted sharks, this would be my spinning weapon of choice.

    Look at the pictures below and see how heavy duty Accurate made this reel. There have been improvements since they first hit the market. My main beef is that stupid little golf ball knob they put on it as standard equipment.
     

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  11. fishr1989

    fishr1989 Senior Member

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    Saltiga Z 6500 Expedition and the Stella 20000 are both great proven reels and are about the same price. Since you are spending that amount of money and your mainly fishing for sharks, I would choose the Accurate Twinspin 30L if I were you. (4:1 ratio)

    Every reel has it's purpose. As far as sheer strength and heavy duty construction, there is not a spinning reel on the market that could out grind the twinspin. Note, it is a heavy reel. Not for the hardcore jigging enthusiast who likes a light weight reel. But if I targeted sharks, this would be my spinning weapon of choice.

    Look at the pictures below and see how heavy duty Accurate made this reel. There have been improvements since they first hit the market. My main beef is that stupid little golf ball knob they put on it as standard equipment.

    I have done a fair bit of reading about the Twin Spin, and even played with it at a show I went to. At this time, the price is a bit too high, even though it's only 100 more than a full priced 20000 as well as being completely metal. The way we fish is without harnesses, and only occasionally use a belt. The accurate, as you said, has a handle that's way too small to get a good grip on to fight a fish with any size (150+) especially when standing up.

    also, the accurate only pulls 44lb of drag while the stella and saltiga both pull over 50.
     
  12. SpecialK

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    also, the accurate only pulls 44lb of drag while the stella and saltiga both pull over 50.
    It takes a big ole boy to handles more than 40 lb of drag for any amount of time...
     
  13. fishr1989

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    I'm 5' 6" 170 and fished 40lbs to catch a 250lb Blue Shark in under 15 minutes last summer.

    You aren't kidding about the strain it puts on you, even for a short period of time, but it's worth it to get the fish to the boat and released as quickly as possible.

    that day I caught and released 7 blues, and the total # of releases for the boat was 13. There were sharks EVERYWHERE!!, we even managed to land on on 30lb with a spheros 8000. now that is a hell of a fight!
     
  14. Ragman

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    I've fished with the 3 spinners you mention and own the Stella. Nothing against the other 2 brands, as they are top quality gear, but the Stella just has a smoothness about it. Kind of like how a BMW feels on the road.

    I've owned the Tib too, and the auto 2-speed is really nice. I don't know if you'll get the drag you want though.

    OTI will have a butt-joint 80# spinning rod in stock in about 3 weeks and, if you go spinning reel, it would IMO perfectly match up to any of those spinning reels.

    Since we haven't signed on any NE dealers yet (we're trying!), you can check it out at 360Tackle
     
  15. fishr1989

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    I've fished with the 3 spinners you mention and own the Stella. Nothing against the other 2 brands, as they are top quality gear, but the Stella just has a smoothness about it. Kind of like how a BMW feels on the road.

    I've owned the Tib too, and the auto 2-speed is really nice. I don't know if you'll get the drag you want though.

    OTI will have a butt-joint 80# spinning rod in stock in about 3 weeks and, if you go spinning reel, it would IMO perfectly match up to any of those spinning reels.

    Since we haven't signed on any NE dealers yet (we're trying!), you can check it out at 360Tackle

    I am planning on ordering the blank for the 7.5' 80lb, but will try and wait till the rod itself comes out. I'm really excited for it's release, and may have a custom wrapped on the blank. :D

    I agree that the tiburon is nice, but to me the auto part of the reel seems like one more thing to break. The stella is definitely my dream reel, but, in the meantime, if I can get the Saltiga for less, I may fish it and put the carbontex washers in. I'm definetly interested in the OTI, as well as the possibility of a custom.

    I have a Shimano t-curve in the mail currently, I can't wait to see how it fishes, even though the lure rating seems a bit light for the rod.

    Bluewater Spin 15/24kg
    7'6"
    2pc butt joint
    15-24kg
    40-100g
     
  16. Gunsmoke

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    I've fished with the 3 spinners you mention and own the Stella. Nothing against the other 2 brands, as they are top quality gear, but the Stella just has a smoothness about it. Kind of like how a BMW feels on the road.



    I've owned BMW's and Jaguar's. Always buy two. That way you can drive one while the other one is in the shop!!!!!!!!:D

    As far as spinners, the stump puller of the three mentioned is the Accurate. It's not as smooth as the Stella, but it's built like a brick chit house. Pull out a micrometer and measure the thickness of the spools and other exterior parts. I would say 30% stronger than the others. If Accurate ever gets the twinspin series as smooth as Shimano does with Stella series, it would be a no brainer to buy one. The Saltiga is also a premium spinning reel. It's the only Dawia I own. The rest of their stuff is marginal.
     
  17. fishr1989

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    I've owned BMW's and Jaguar's. Always buy two. That way you can drive one while the other one is in the shop!!!!!!!!:D

    As far as spinners, the stump puller of the three mentioned is the Accurate. It's not as smooth as the Stella, but it's built like a brick chit house. Pull out a micrometer and measure the thickness of the spools and other exterior parts. I would say 30% stronger than the others. If Accurate ever gets the twinspin series as smooth as Shimano does with Stella series, it would be a no brainer to buy one. The Saltiga is also a premium spinning reel. It's the only Dawia I own. The rest of their stuff is marginal.


    I could tell when I picked up the Accurate how well built it was, but, as funny as it sounds, what's putting me off slightly is how shiny the reel is, there's a bit to much silver there for my liking. On the other hand, if they made it in BLACK, I would be much more willing to buy one.

    Have you had any problems with your Saltiga since you bought it, and is it a manual or automatic bait trip?
     
  18. thenewkid

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    Hey tom dont hink ive given up im still working on signing a dealer up here for you guys but its hard because i have no product to show them and very limited info about the products if you could send me a dvd or product catalog that would make thigs easier
     
  19. fishr1989

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    how would the cabo 80 compare to the stella or the saltiga, both in terms of line capacity and drag pressure?
     
  20. hatidua

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    If you plan on putting as much drag on the reel as you indicate, I'd recommend surfing around a bit to various other forums where there are more than a couple of photos of Saltiga reel stems snapping under load. I've not heard of that happening with either the Accurate or Stella.

    I bought six new spinning reels last year and had the same choices in front of me that are discussed here. I made my bet and bought all the same brand, here's four of them:

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  21. fishr1989

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    what rods are you fishing those stellas o in the picture?