"Standardized Rigging"

Discussion in 'Tackle and Rigging' started by Uncle Russ, Oct 24, 2006.

  1. Uncle Russ

    Uncle Russ Senior Member

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    Generic Rigging Method


    Gentlemen: With the help of many of you on this board, I have, for better or worse, gutted it up and purchased 3 rigs and I will complete the arsenal with a fourth rig when the Twinspin 12 is ready for distribution. I want to thank all of you for your assistance. With the rigs out of the way, I am now working my way down to the fish’s end! This post has to do with terminal rigs.

    I know there is an advantage to using the correct terminal rig for each of the major methods of offshore fishing I have read about on these excellent pages. And I will no doubt end up doing just that. However, I am pretty much a klutz when it comes to fine work with my hands and I can never do complicated changes to my rigging very rapidly, especially while trying to stay on board in rolling seas.

    So whenever possible, I like to do two things: (1) have one outfit serve as a quick backup for at least one other, and (2) standardize my rigging to facilitate quick changes in function for any given outfit. I have pretty much settled on taking 4 outfits on longer trips:

    1. 50W/760H (Primary uses = Deep Drop and chunking/Backup uses = none) (130 Spectra)

    2. 665HXC (Primary uses = Jigging and shallow bottom fishing/Backup uses = Chunking and Heavy Casting (80 Spectra)

    3. Twinspin 30/700H (Primary uses = Heavy Casting/Backup uses = Jigging Two spools with (80)(65) Spectra

    4. Twinspin 12/800H (Primary uses = Casting to smaller fish and catching bait/Backup Uses: None. Two spools with (50)(30) Spectra.

    So I would need to have the ability to switch the 50W quickly from deep drop to chunking and vice versa. I would need to be able to switch the 665 from jigging to bottom (or maybe even casting), and so on with the Twinspin 30.

    So here is my thought, and please feel free to tell me what is wrong with it (I have no pride and am always willing to learn from my betters!):

    (1) On each rig, I would tie a 40 turn Bimini in the Spectra.

    (2) I would attach to each, using loop-to-loop, a short wind-on of appropriate length, and appropriate strength, not to exceed 25 feet. (in other words, I would not use any reverse Albrights, which would necessitate cutting off and re-tying the Bimini to change functions.)

    (3) To each wind-on, I would attach an appropriate-sized ball bearing snap swivel using either an offshore knot or San Diego knot.

    (4) Onto each swivel would go a short length of fluorocarbon leader which would then be attached to circle hook, jig, popper, or pre-rigged bottom rig.

    Anybody see any problems with this standardized system?

    Russ
     
  2. Deep_Sea_Gull

    Deep_Sea_Gull Lifetime Supporting Members

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    I just did a quick read. Not a close examination.

    First thing that comes to mind is that you do not have to tie a bimini twist in Jerry Brown hollow core spectra to make a loop. Just pull a loop into it.

    Take a look around Basil Pappas' site. He has instructions for this there.
    www.bhptackle.com

    Use solid core spectra for your spinners....
     

  3. Uncle Russ

    Uncle Russ Senior Member

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    I just did a quick read. Not a close examination.

    First thing that comes to mind is that you do not have to tie a bimini twist in Jerry Brown hollow core spectra to make a loop. Just pull a loop into it.

    Take a look around Basil Pappas' site. He has instructions for this there.
    www.bhptackle.com

    Use solid core spectra for your spinners....

    Thanks, seagull. Great site. As always, I learned a lot. I would have thought they would have glued the loops, but I guess there is enough friction to prevent slippage. Interesting that the quoted price for J.B. 80 is greater than for a comparable length of either 65 (to be expected) OR 130. Actually a lot more. Wonder if that could be a misprint.

    Russ
     
  4. mcgolfer

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    the 80lb hollow is the most expensive. it's not a misprint....rick
     
  5. Deep_Sea_Gull

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  6. Uncle Russ

    Uncle Russ Senior Member

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    Wow, that is a great link. Thanks. Now I am beginning to understand why so many on this board prefer JB line and hollow-braided loops for top shots and wind-ons. Also, I bought the Accurate 50W TJ had for sale and it arrived yesterday. I had never seen a braided loop in hollow spectra up close before, and boy was it an eye-opener. I also was impressed by the texture of the line (JB 130) and how tightly it was wound onto the reel. That may solve one mystery: the stated capacity of Spectra for that reel by Accurate is 500 yds. of Spectra + a 100 yard 130 pound topshot. But TJ pointed out that it has 900 yards on it. I figured he was just in error and felt pretty smug about it. Now, from the capacity table on that link you sent me, I have concluded it may well be true.

    I notice that all of the advice I am getting for rigging out the Twinspin says I should use solid Spectra for spinning reels. Any idea why that would be? The JB sure feels like it would lie on the spinner's spool better.

    Thanks,

    Russ
     
  7. Snagged

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    Hollow spectra doesn't cast as well and tends to wrap on a spinner. Remember you need to keep spectra tight on your spool or it will dig in when you catch a decent fish.
     
  8. Deep_Sea_Gull

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    I'm glad that you found the links valuable. I like to write PDF's on that kind of info.
    TJ told you the straight up about the line capacity on that reel.
    Snagged is right about the solid spectra.
    To me the hollow core will try to lay flat on your rings. The solid will tend to slide better.
     
  9. Uncle Russ

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    McGolfer, Deep Sea Gull, and Snagged: Thanks for the opinions. Do all of you also agree that for solid Spectra, the Jerry Brown product is also the way to go as opposed to, say, Power Pro?

    Russ
     
  10. newman

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    Go with the JB Solid for everything EXCEPT your 50W then use the hollow core 130. You will get the best casting distance using 50-65# solid spectra as it slides through the guides better and won't slap against the rod blank during launch. For the jigging/chunking backup outfit 80# solid spectra is fine.
     
  11. newman

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    Also Ocean Tackle International is supposed to have a high quality jigging line that is pre-marked in 25' intervals avaliable soon. That will let you get to the depth where you got your last bite a lot quicker!