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Don't buy any spinning reel without bail if you intend to use it for jigging.
I tested my Zeebaas ZX27 and the line got loose a dozen times while jigging today. I was luck it didn't break my nose.
 

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Did the reel have any line-lay problems? Did the gears ever loosen up for you?
No line-lay problem whatsoever. It is much better than my Stella 8000.
I'll show pictures when I have time.
 

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No advantage at all for our intended purposes.

I think KIL got a bail less zebass as thats all that is available.

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Kil,

Other than the bail-less feature, what did you think of the reel. Did I understand you correctly, that you think the line lay is better than a stella? Is the drag smooth, gearing smooth?
 

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Bailess reel is great for live bait fishing but not as good for jigging and popping.

TJ, I need to correct that quote. :p

The purpose of bailess reel design is for popping, to prevent bail accidentally trip when casting and bail mechanism failure because of sand when the reel get dunk in the water.

Most of hardcore surf fisherman used custom hand made lure (popper/swimbait), and mostly cost $30 - $80 /lure, depend who's the maker.
And you can see their ugly face when they loose those lure because of the bail snap closed.:D

I never had experience line loose while popping or cast-jig with my VS.
I will get one ZB as soon they release offshore series.

For deep jigging. Please, get with bail system if you still love your finger.:)
 

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Kil,

Other than the bail-less feature, what did you think of the reel. Did I understand you correctly, that you think the line lay is better than a stella? Is the drag smooth, gearing smooth?
I can sum up the reel with three words.

Simplicity, Style and Innovation

I dont know myt Stella 8000 has a defect or not. Stella 8000 I have is OK, but it doesn't have good Line-lay as my Stella 20000 has.
After catching a few 50- 100 lbs AJ on Sunday, I'll give my review of the reel.

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I just don't think a bail-less reel is in my future.

The below reel is in my future, as I hope to receive one late Sept 08.
It will be the baddest of the bad as far as spinning reels go. With a capacity of 450 yards of 130# spectra, not many fish will spool it.
 

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Freddy, I didn't say what's that reel is design for did I?:rolleyes: :D :D
I said it works great for live bait fishing

MrBill,

Do you think it's bigger than Van Staal VS 400?

TJ,
Yes, you did not say that. :D
I just try to explain the purposed of the reel design.
That's why is not great for jigging but great for popping.;)

And congrats on that VS-400, I almost outbid you but decided to back out after I contact Robert for the reel weight. (52oz :eek: )
 

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Same with me, I want it so bad for long time. Since I want to collect all the VS series.
But I have to back out after saw your name as I remember we're talking about it at Fung restaurant and you like to have VS-400.
And second is the weight issue, scared me off.:eek:

Next time when you decide to selling it, let me know.
I like to have it for my VS collection.
 
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