spectra you use for spinners

Discussion in 'Tackle and Rigging' started by jureal, Mar 2, 2008.

  1. jureal

    jureal Senior Member

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    I understand that many anglers use the pe lines from Japan as well as the lines sold by OTI but I am interested in information about tuf line xp specifically used for spinners. Any recommendations of others would be appreciated as well. I just don't want to use powerpro. Currently, I use mostly jerry brown or izor.
     
  2. mcgolfer

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    tuff line and powerpro are manufactured in the same city. that would lead me to think that they are made in the same factory as there aren't many places that spectre is manufactured. there are a few plants in china but when i was there 2 weeks ago for china fish the spectre that was being made in china was of a courser texture and was as expensive as the japanese companies and some even more expensive than the japanese pe companies. for a spinner try and get at least an 8 weave spectre as this will make it a little easier on the finger you use to cast with....rick
     

  3. ksong

    ksong SPONSOR

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    Mel, I highly recommend Tuf line as I have been using over 10 years from 30 lbs to 100 lbs without any problem. In fact Tuf line is the only braided line I use except PE lines.
    I doubt Tuf line and Power Pro come from the same factory.
     
  4. papio

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    I also use Tuf line XP and have had no failures. In the early years I used Power Pro and don't recall having any problems with them too. The XPs are tough and seem to hold their color longer than other braids. I now only use the XP. Try it and find out....you'll be more than happy.
     
  5. BretABaker

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    I have TUF line on my accurate.....and JB solid on another reel. Can't tell the difference. I can tell a huge difference between that and power pro though in terms of smoothness.

    I need to try PE line....maybe next time i respool....
     
  6. Angler Systems

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    I doubt Tuf line and Power Pro come from the same factory.

    Here is some information on that....ownership info.

    Tuff Line
    Western Filament, Inc.
    630 Hollingsworth Str., Grand Junction, CO 81505

    Power Pro
    Innovative Textiles, Inc.
    2105 I-70-B, Grand Junction, CO 81501

    If they are not the same owners they may have been related at some point.

    I have samples of both in front of me and the braid is not the same. Power Pro has a thicker coating over the line compared to Tuff.
     
  7. BretABaker

    BretABaker Guest

    well power pro couldve been a spin off at some point as you said, but those two lines are much much different.
     
  8. Fishhead56

    Fishhead56 Senior Member

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    Spider Wire Ultracast Braid,
    Has worked well for the limited use
    I have put it through for casting
    with a heavy spinner & lure combo.

    Daiwa Saltiga Boat Braid.
    The same comments as
    above for jigging.
     
  9. SkeeterRonnie

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    spiderwire stealth for me.
     
  10. papio

    papio Senior Member

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    Stealth has been a good one too as I still have several in supply and on a few reels waiting to be cycled out. Very smooth.
     
  11. jureal

    jureal Senior Member

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    Thanks guys. Western Filament and Power Pro are different companies. I heard that Western Filament makes the Izor spectra.
     
  12. ksong

    ksong SPONSOR

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    Thanks guys. Western Filament and Power Pro are different companies. I heard that Western Filament makes the Izor spectra.
    As far as I know Izor lines come from Taiwan and the company also makes Suffix lines. Western Filament based in the US makes several other brand braided lines.
     
  13. tracker12

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    What color tuff line do you recommend? Any cons to the high viz yellow.
     
  14. hatidua

    hatidua Senior Member

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    ....a little voice once told me all the brands that come out of Western Filaments. While they may be completely different, many brands of lines are made by just a few actual spectra manufacturers ;)
     
  15. xs_tackle

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    I have samples of both in front of me and the braid is not the same. Power Pro has a thicker coating over the line compared to Tuff.

    Ah, the infamous PowerPro "gunk." It was initially marketed as a "feature" which gave the line "extra body" (sort of hairspray for fishing line), presumably to reduce wind-knotting in sub-40# Spectra/Dyneema. In the over 50# sizes that has not been a problem in a long time if it ever was. The coating might also have made otherwise coarse line a little easier on the fingers, too.

    As for TUF line and PPro coming from the same city, I understood that there are very few mills capable of spinning fishing line from the stuff--maybe only one in Grand Junction, CO-- and that they, like gasoline refiners, ran batches set up according their clients' specific directions and recipes (12-bundles, so many fibers to the bundle, 16 strand, so many fibers to the bundle, etc.) Brand X one day, Brand Y the next.
     
  16. rtran

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    Alot of fisherman used power pro and will take it to the grave with them while I was on the Big E. I have now switched my line from YGK to Tuf Line XP on my casting reel because I had to many break off with YGK. I think the tiniest bit of fray on the line weakens the line by a significant amount. I still have YGK on my jigging reel but will switch out immediatly to OTI line if I experience anymore break offs.

    Ref: YGK Jigman Jigman 60LB
     
  17. ALW

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    I test my line befor fishing it. I take a couple of wood dowels wrap the line around each and pick up a stack of weights with the line. This way I am not testing knots and burns due to slipage. Power Pro dosn't measure up. Neither does some PE line. Jerry Brown line is good. I check monofilament leader as well. Most of that dosn't measure up. I find the Frinzy mono I bought from MC Saltwater Tackle does.
     
  18. rtran

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    When jigging I broke off many times with YGK PE6 and 80lb leader at the rigs. The rigs often frayed up to 25 feet. I think rigs are meant to be fished with very heavy line and leader so fraying does not effect them much.
     
  19. hatidua

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    My experience with yellow Tuf-XP has been fairly good. However.....I bought a LOT of 50# and 65# WHITE Tuf-XP last Summer and the stuff was truly awful. The thickest layer of wax on it of any I have ever seen, multiple irregularities in the line itself, 65# routinely broke at less than 20#s, etc. The wax was so thick a live sardine was unable to pull line off a Trinidad 40 in freespool and casting a lure with a Stella got about half the normal distance because the line was all stuck to itself.

    I emailed my contact at Western Filaments about it and although getting a response was really easy when I was placing the order, things went mysteriously silent when I had problems. No response whatsoever.

    No problem, I switched to Stren Super-Braid and have been exceedingly happy :)

    The colored Tuf-Line might be fine, but steer well clear of the white "XP" variety...
     
  20. Uncle Russ

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    I have a ton of YKG jigman (330 yards each of PE4, 5, 6, and 8), and am very impressed with the smoothness of the line. I'm betting (without knowing) that it is very similar to the OTI stuff.) That having been said, I have not tested it for breakage as I have the JB lines (with which I am very impressed.) So, for insurance, on each of my spinners, on which I have the 4, 5, an 6 lines, respectively, I also have a spool each of Jerry Brown line--or, in the case of the SR20, a spool of Varivas.

    One line I recently bought for use on the Twinspin SR20 for popping, is the Varivas Super Max SMP GT line--in PE6, rated for 90 pound test. I have no idea how it will perform, but it's smoothness is like silk--Randy tells me it is one of the top casting lines in Asia. Again, I have not tested it, and it is expensive as hell, but I'm willing to try anything to cast a popper more than 50 feet. :)

    Russ