Both reels are used but in great working condition. Normal wear and tear as shown in pics. Handle upgrade cost shown, just over $200. PayPal FF or 3%. SOLD Daiwa Ryoga 1012 Bay Jigging with upgraded Livre handle and knob. $300 shipped to lower US. Or reasonable offer. SOLD Daiwa Ryoga 2020 with upgraded Livre handle and knob $300 shipped to lower US Or reasonable offer.