OK so I got the needles and they have been a godsend when rigging with the JB Hollow. What I had been doing was splicing the braid into the JB several feet then splicing the mono leader of choice into the other end of the JB and then serving the two ends for casting purposes. I got to thinking about how big a pain in the ass it would be to have to re-rig this setup on the water, not impossible but difficult at best. So I thought about the next best way to do this. I figured i could rig up the leader portions with JB pre-spliced onto the mono and have a spliced loop in the JB. Then I spliced the braided main line on the rod with JB that has also been spliced with an end loop. Now I can make up plenty of leaders ahead of time and just connect via loop to loop connection. Does anybody do it this way?? Or does everybody already do it this way and I am just a knucklehead who is finally catching on???? When creating the end loops how much JB should i be splicing back up into itself to create the loop? I have been splicing it about 1.5-2 ft. back into itself and it seems as though any more would be overkill as it seems to hold strong. Maybe a dab of glue where the tag end is just for good measure??? I tried to double the JB back inside itself then create the end loop with the doubled 80 lb. JB but could not get the doubled line to splice back into itself. I was thinking that doubling it would be better and stronger and i think Basil does this with his windon's but I could not figure out the technique to make it work. Anyway being laid up for a few days has me doing rigging stuff to pass the time and it is a hell of lot more fun with the right tools to say the least.