Question before my trips.

Discussion in 'Tackle and Rigging' started by TeamOso, Oct 22, 2007.

  1. TeamOso

    TeamOso Senior Member

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    Ill be going on the Pesca on a 36 and 60hr trip in 11/10 and the 30th respectively. I know it aint the Big E but supposedly even the 36 is heading the floater direction so its all fisshing haha.
    At any rate what size fluoro should I use for my chunk leaders, and what size and brand hooks? Im ust going to chunk with my SLD and jig wit my LX and might bring my SX just cause in case we really dont fish the floaters also. What lb. fluoro should i use as leaders for my jigs? How many jigs do you all bring when you go out. I just want to get 2-3 diamonds then maybe 5 of assorted colors...any favorite colors?

    Thanks alot, I know this is a lot of Questions but after I pick up my check next week after a double back im off to do some buying at roys.

    Kevin
     
  2. mcgolfer

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    50 or 60lb flourocarbon should do you just fine. hooks that is a personal preference i use 4 or 5/0 owner super mutu's but some think the offset is a negative when chunking. mustad has some hooks that are about the size of your thumbprint size 39952bl on the 6 or 7/0 size that are quite a bit cheaper and will work just fine.

    the 50lb flourocarbon will let your jig work better than the heavier stuff. how many jigs do i bring? well i think you better ask some one else on that one as i tend to bring enough for everyone on the boat. just rember if your fishing deep water structure then there are usually sharks and barracuda's present. this fact can lead to losing many lures if you are unlucky. so you make the call.

    if you use diamond jigs made by bead or lee then replace the hooks and hardware or just take off the hooks and use one assist hook on the a solid ring attached to the lure with a split ring. sliver/pink and glow in the dark are my favorite colors. good luck with your trip.....rick
     

  3. Uncle Russ

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    Kevin: When we were out with Captain Eddie at Venice, he had us start out with 80# fluoro for chunking--on 30W and 50W reels. We hooked up with 17 yellowfin and brought 13 to gaff. The Captain's plan was to switch to 60# if the tuna were shy. Needless to say, that night, they were not. I did see in a later post (September?) of his, Captain Eddie said they had to drop down to 60 pound.

    Also, we were using 5/0 Super Mutu hooks, but as Rick says, in spite of our success rate, Captain Eddie did not like those hooks because of the offset. He prefers Mustads for that reason. His theory is that the Super Mutu does not always catch in the corner of the mouth, but rather catches in the throat of the tuna in softer tissue and tends to pull out during the fight. Personally, I was so whupped after my two I wouldn't have noticed if they had been hooked up their butt and came in backwards! Fred (gimmedeal) had to stick one of his hammy hands into the photo while I was pretending to hold the damned thing up for the camera.

    I learned not to be afraid of small hooks for tunal. I'll tell you something else: the deckhands on the Big E had some rigs made up with little bitty circle hooks that looked like what we used to use for Rio Grande Perch with crawdads and cane poles. No joke. I was going to use one just to piss off my buddy who is even more of a believer in Super Mutu than I am. But I got bit off my a barracuda and didn't want to take the time to go back for another. So I tied on another 5/0 S.M. and caught the yellowfin on that.

    As to the hooks that did pull, I strongly believe it was due to heavy drag. They all happened (I'm pretty sure) to only one of our party. We had all carefully set our drags the night before to exactly 1/4 of the breaking strength of the line on the respective rigs. On my big rig with 130 pound line, the drag was set at about 33 to 35 pounds. Our one believer in very heavy drag (he's not alone among fishermen, by the way) had his set somewhat higher. Well, when Eddie tested our rigs, he laughed at all of them and re-set the drag by hand--no way to know for sure, but I think he brought mine down to about 20 pounds. Five fish were caught on that rig including my two, and I firmly believe our high success ratio was due to those lighter than usual settings. The member of our party who had the pulled hooks (he did really well on several other fish, let it be said), pushed his drag up pretty high when the Captain wasn't looking! Of course we were on a 36 foot boat with only 5 fishermen and could afford to spend a little time on each fish. Nevertheless, I copied those lighter settings on the Big E and caught my 75 (or so) pounder and a 25 pound AJ without too much trouble--I'm estimating 10 minutes or so although it seemed like half my lifetime. At your age, you should have no issue with endurance, and from my limited experience, I would recommend not overdoing it on the drag. Good luck to you.

    Russ

    Good luck on your
     
  4. fishologist

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    for chunks i use 80 frenzy fluro with 9/0 frenzy ultimate circle hooks and if they are really leader shy i will put on a 60 lb wind on and use a 6/0 circle inside the chunk
    on live flyers i use gorilla 8/0
     
  5. Ragman

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    I agree on the non-offset Mustad demon circle hooks.

    Remember Kevin, match your hook size to the size of your bait (chunk, dead or live).
     
  6. TeamOso

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    hey thanks for all the help guys, but from the looks of the forecast for 60miles out this weekend, being that this trip going to the floaters is contigent on the weather....i think ill just pack my tld 25 and be ready for some nice bottom fishing. who knows though, supposed to be 6-8;s but i gues that could be different at floaters and on course to floaters.

    Kevin
     
  7. Pope

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    We all have our preferrences, but I am in line with Rick on this one. I like 50-60lb flouro. I use Seagar and have found it to be the best. I also use offset circles. Buy in bulk and sit on all the hooks! That will help in the long run. Jigs? I am not much of a jig man. Like Rick said. Figgin barracudas eat $10 bills too fast for my blood. I like poppers and fliers as lures.
     
  8. SkeeterRonnie

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    pay attention to what is being used currently with the reports. I try to use the largest line I can, while still getting bit. I keep 2 spools of flouro leader..one at 60#, and one at 80#...
    Jigs.... lots, and lots, and lots, and lots..... OTI has theirs priced right. Its hrad to even buy a diamond jig, then assist hook, then the rings.... for the same- you can get a ready to go OTI "pretty" jig.... cudas can be brutal.. learn when to stop wasting jigs on them and try something else.... I am an "action" man... I like casting and winding... not big on chunkin. I like the swimbaits, and poppers. Never really liked the flyers.... not yet anyways... I am still green and have a LOT to learn as well....
     
  9. jaredchasteen

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    Good advive, go with whatever you can get away with as far as leader.

    we have landed tuna to 140#s on 5/0 mustads that are as big as your thumb.

    drag, just remember not to set it to 1/3 of you main line, nut rather your weakest point(leader in this case). Also if you have never felt 25#s of drag dont set it there or your new toys may find the bottom of the ocean in 6-8s.

    Russ you may have had 130# line but only 80# leader.

    Go catch em they are there.
     
  10. TeamOso

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    got my spheros 14000, sld20, and tld 25 at ready, gonna do a little tackle shopping tomorrow after school, proly just gonna take the sld and make do with jigging and chunking on that rod, dont wanna keep track of 3 rods.

    cant wait to get out there and wet a line for the 1st time since january:rolleyes:

    Kevin
     
  11. SkeeterRonnie

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    what are you gonna do if the sld fails??? 3 rods are easy to keep in the milk crate....
     
  12. DeepBlueGulf

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    Good Luck Kevin! Post a good report when you get back.

    Tom - DBG
     
  13. TeamOso

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    what are you gonna do if the sld fails??? 3 rods are easy to keep in the milk crate....
    i got the tld packed came to my senses made a dumb decision on buying for leaders size of mono but ill just redo on the 12hr ride out with the boats 100lb mono.

    im still way green so hopefully noones expecting a report with tunas haha

    Kevin
     
  14. SkeeterRonnie

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    LOL!! dont worry about greeeen... I get lucky and catch tuna too!!!