penn international 50 vsx rebuild

Discussion in 'Reel Repair' started by alantani, Feb 12, 2009.

  1. alantani

    alantani Senior Member

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    if you've followed my posts, you know how big a fan i am of the old school internationals. i am just as impressed with the new "v" series internationals. here is the reel.

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    here's a link to the schematic.

    http://www.scottsbt.com/catalog/store/images/pennparts/schematics/50vsx.pdf

    we need a no. 15 torx bit to back out the five left side plate screws (key #39).

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    it separates easily to remove the spool assembly (key #29).

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    before they get lost, let's find the disc clutch springs (key #'s 18 and 18A).

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    remove the five right side plate screws (key #38).

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    we now have four separate pieces, the right side plate assembly (key #1), the frame assembly (key #183), the spool assembly (key #29) and the left side plate assembly (key #27).

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    the hardest part of servicing this reel is removing the handle. you'll need to have a special wrench (part #168-30VS).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_2_57_06_0.jpeg

    slide the wrench under the shifter button retaining ring (key #110C) to hold the shift housing (key #110B).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_2_57_10_1.jpeg

    unscrew the shifter button retaining ring (key #110C).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_2_57_12_2.jpeg

    the shift button (key #172) pulls right out.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_2_57_15_3.jpeg

    remove the shifter retaining plate (key #133).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_2_57_17_4.jpeg

    the shifter catch holder assembly (key #170) pulls straight up.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_01_28_0.jpeg

    remove the shifter retaining ring (key #67B).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_01_30_1.jpeg

    the shift housing (key #110B) lifts straight up.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_01_32_2.jpeg

    remove the handle locking plate (key #110A).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_01_35_3.jpeg

    note the position of the peg underneath and the matching hole in the handle arm.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_01_37_4.jpeg

    remove the handle screw (key #23).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_04_55_0.jpeg

    remove the handle assembly (key #24). ok, i don't know about you guys, but i think this is way too complicated to just remove a handle.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_04_58_1.jpeg

    remove the gear stud shield (key #50).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_05_00_2.jpeg

    take a sharp pair of needle nose pliers and push out the retaining ring (key #195).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_05_03_3.jpeg

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_05_06_4.jpeg

    lift the right side plate assembly (key #1) and the main gear assembly drops out as a unit.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_09_20_0.jpeg

    here's the underside of the right side plate (key #1).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_09_23_1.jpeg

    remove the right main side plate bearing (key #55A). i made the mistake of not measuring this bearing while i had it out. i THINK the dimensions are 10 x 26 x 8.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_09_26_2.jpeg

    pull the bearing shields.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_09_29_3.jpeg

    the bearing is not completely packed with grease. that will become a problem later.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_09_31_4.jpeg

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_11_36_0.jpeg

    let's pack it with grease and put the shields back on.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_11_38_1.jpeg

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_11_40_2.jpeg

    install the right side plate bearing (key #55A) into the right side plate assembly (key #1).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_11_44_3.jpeg

    install the main gear assembly.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_11_49_4.jpeg

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_14_29_0.jpeg

    install the retaining ring (key #195).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_14_35_1.jpeg

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_14_40_2.jpeg

    install the gear stud cover (key #50).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_14_44_3.jpeg

    install the handle assembly (key #24).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_14_48_4.jpeg

    install the handle screw (key #23). make sure it lines up with the hole in the handle arm.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_20_30_0.jpeg

    if the handle screw (key #23) is lined up properly, the handle locking plate (key #110A) will drop right in.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_20_33_1.jpeg

    install the shift housing (key #110B).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_20_37_2.jpeg

    install the shifter retaining ring (key #67B).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_20_39_3.jpeg

    install the shift housing (key #110B). use a small screw driver to spread the two shifter catch plates (key #172B).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_20_43_4.jpeg

    install the shifter retaining plate (key #133).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_23_05_1.jpeg

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_23_08_2.jpeg

    the shift button (key #172) pushes right in.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_23_13_3.jpeg

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_23_16_4.jpeg

    use the wrench to hold the shift housing (key #110B) and screw on the shifter button retaining ring (key #110C).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_25_58_0.jpeg

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_26_01_1.jpeg

    and the right side plate is done.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_26_03_2.jpeg

    now on to the frame. let's back out each one of the stand screws (key #63).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_26_08_4.jpeg

    remove the stand (key #30).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_28_38_0.jpeg

    there has been concerns in the past about greasing these screw holes. i still believe that it is better to grease these screws and risk having them back out, then it is to have them corrode.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_28_40_1.jpeg

    now that they are well greased, re-install the stand (key #30) and stand screws (key #63).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_28_43_2.jpeg

    install the rod clamp (key #33C).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_28_45_3.jpeg

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_28_47_4.jpeg

    add a small bead of grease to all of the screw holes in the frame (key #183).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_30_38_0.jpeg

    let's set the frame aside and move on to the spool assembly.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_30_40_1.jpeg

    here's the left side of the spool assembly (key #29).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_30_45_3.jpeg

    remove the pinion retaining washer (key #67A) and pinion retaining screw (key #67).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_34_22_2.jpeg

    to remove the drag cover (key #156), we first need to lift the lock pin (key #156A).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_30_47_4.jpeg

    lift the lock plate (key #156B) and rotate it 90 to 180 degrees.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_34_17_0.jpeg

    use the wrench to turn the drag cover (key #156) clockwise. the pinion retaining screw (key #67) and pinion retaining washer (key #67A) should be removed in this photo but this photo was shot out of sequence.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_34_19_1.jpeg

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_34_24_3.jpeg

    take a look at the outer drive plate assembly (key #117DN). note the uneven application of dura gel. without an even coat, saltwater intrusion can cause damage to this drag washer.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_3_34_27_4.jpeg

    remove the six ratchet plate retaining screws (key #101).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_08_15_1.jpeg

    remove the metal drag washer (key #7A).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_08_17_2.jpeg

    remove the bearing spring (key #41).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_08_19_3.jpeg

    remove the inner drive plate assembly (key #117AN). again note the uneven application of dura gel.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_08_22_4.jpeg

    the left spool bearing (key #55B) is removed with the inner drive plate assembly (key #117AN). this bearing measures 0.5 x 0.875 x 0.280.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_14_19_0.jpeg

    this bearing had a thrust washer (no key #) underneath.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_14_22_1.jpeg

    remove the spool sleeve (key #13A).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_14_25_2.jpeg

    remove the pinion gear assembly (key #13).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_14_27_3.jpeg

    remove the four ratchet plate screws (key #101).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_14_30_4.jpeg

    remove the ratchet disc plate (key #81).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_17_03_0.jpeg

    remove the spool bushing (key #173).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_17_05_1.jpeg

    remove the right spool bearing (key #55B). this bearing also measures 0.5 x 0.875 x 0.280.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_17_08_2.jpeg

    the spool sleeve (key #13A) is also commonly known as a bearing sleeve. the purpose of this sleeve is to prevent the drag springs from placing an axial load on the spool bearings. this allows the spool to spin freely in freespool. if the bearing sleeve is too short, then it may as well not even be there. if the bearing sleeve is too long, you will have great freespool when the reel is level or turned to the left. turn the reel to the right and you will loose freespool. that is because the spool is shifting against the drag washer. this problem is most commonly seen in the shimano tld single and two speed reels. this bearing sleeve measured 1.513 inches and had to be shortened down to 1.492. even ground down 0.021 inches, there was still a slight amount of play in the spool. it was not enough to affect performance or freespool.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_17_10_3.jpeg

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_17_12_4.jpeg

    i have opted to remove the shields of the spool bearings, clean out the excess grease, lube them with "xtreme reel +" and reinstall them open. i am very impressed by this new lube for spool bearings.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_21_14_0.jpeg

    install the right spool bearing (key #55B).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_21_16_1.jpeg

    install the spool bushing (key #173).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_21_18_2.jpeg

    install the ratchet disc plate (key #81) and grease the screw holes.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_21_20_3.jpeg

    install the ratched plate screws (key #101).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_21_26_5.jpeg

    install the pinion gear assembly (key #13).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_23_35_0.jpeg

    install our now slightly shorter spool sleeve (key #13A).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_23_37_1.jpeg

    install the left spool bearing (key #55B).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_23_40_2.jpeg

    here is a closer look at the inner drive plate assembly (key #117AN). saltwater intrusion could cause extensive damage.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_23_43_3.jpeg

    let's give the drive plate a generous coat of cal's drag grease, paying particular attention to the edges.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_23_45_4.jpeg

    now wipe off all of the excess.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_25_47_0.jpeg

    a well greased drive plate such as this will be impervious to salt water.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_25_50_1.jpeg

    install the thrust washer (no key #).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_25_52_2.jpeg

    install our well greased inner drive plate assembly (key #117AN) and give the spool a spin. this spool spun for 100 seconds.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_25_55_3.jpeg

    grease the screw holes ratched plate screws (key #101).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_25_57_4.jpeg

    install the metal drag washer (key #7A) and ratched plate screws (key #101).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_28_28_0.jpeg

    install the bearing spring (key #41).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_28_30_1.jpeg

    remove the outer drive plate assembly (key #117DN) by simply pushing it out of the drag cover (key #156).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_28_33_2.jpeg

    add a generous coat of cal's grease.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_28_35_3.jpeg

    remove the excess.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_28_38_4.jpeg

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_30_49_0.jpeg

    push the outer drive plate assembly (key #117DN) back into the drag cover (key #156).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_30_51_1.jpeg

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_30_53_2.jpeg

    screw the drag cover (key #156) back onto the spool (key #29).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_30_56_3.jpeg

    make sure the lock plate (key #156B) is turned 90 to 180 degrees.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_30_58_4.jpeg

    turn the drag cover (key #156) down until it seats, then return the lock plate (key #156B) to it's locking position. now tighten the drag cover slightly until the lock plate drops down into position.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_33_54_0.jpeg

    screw in the pinion retaining screw (key #67A) and pinion retaining washer (key #67).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_33_57_1.jpeg

    the spool assembly is done. set it aside with the completed right side plate assembly and frame assembly.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_33_59_2.jpeg

    finally, the left side plate assembly (key #27). all we need to do here is pack the left side plate bearing (key #55) with grease. i forgot to measure this one as well, but i believe the dimensions are 0.5 x 1.125 x 0.375

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_34_01_3.jpeg

    to prevent saltwater intrusion, these bearings need to be completely packed with grease.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_34_03_4.jpeg

    like this......

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_36_41_0.jpeg

    replace the shields and back into the side plate it goes. make sure the dogs (key #15) are resting against the dog springs (key #14). they will have to be in this position to install the left side plate.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_36_45_1.jpeg

    line up the right side plate assembly (key #1) with the harness lug (key #54) and the frame assembly (key #183).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_36_47_2.jpeg

    install the five right side plate screws (key #38) with a small amount of grease.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_36_50_3.jpeg

    remember those disc clutch springs (key #'s 18 and 18A)? let's add a little grease to them so that they stick together and line them up in a "()()" stock configuration.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_36_52_4.jpeg

    wedge them into position, inbetween the right main side plate bearing (key #55A) and the main gear (key #5H).

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_39_09_0.jpeg

    shimmy the spool assembly (key #29) into the frame assembly (key #183). the tricky part here is that the pinion gear (key #13) needs to slide PAST the high (key #5H) and low (key #5L) speed main gears, THROUGH the disc clutch springs (key #'s 18 and 18A) and into the right main side plate bearing (key #55A). you will probably have to line it up several times before you are able to wiggle it in. be patient.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_39_12_1.jpeg

    install the harness lug (key #54) and align the left side plate assembly (key #27). add a small amount of grease around the screw holes.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_39_15_2.jpeg

    install the five left side plate screws (key #39) and you're done. congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_39_17_3.jpeg

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_39_19_4.jpeg

    we still need to run the reel through it's paces. remember, the disc clutch springs (key #18 and 18A) were installed in the stock configuration of "()()". i went to my local tackle shop, the fisherman's warehouse, and had one of the managers (thomas) spool up the reel with 300 yards of old 100# berkeley blue monofilament. this stuff had probably been sitting around since the shop opened 10 years ago, so he was glad to get rid of it.

    http://alantani.com/gallery/0/1_11_02_09_4_40_21_0.jpeg

    with the disc clutch springs in the stock configuration, the reel only delivered 24 pounds of drag before losing freespool. i added an extra disc clutch spring washer, changed the configuration to "((())" and the drag jumped to 50 pounds before losing freespool. this reel also delivers 40 seconds of freespool at this 40 pound drag setting. the owner wants to fish this reel with 130 pound jerry brown hollow core and a 130 pound wind on topshot with 40 pounds of drag, so our reel is now within specs. i know there have been some issues with the older v series internationals, but i am very impressed by the new v series internationals.

    and lastly, if there is anyone out there that could verify the dimensions of right and left side plate bearings, i would appreciate it very much.

    alan tani
    2/12/09