New to the Forum with a few Questions.

Discussion in 'Tackle and Rigging' started by Jason_L, Nov 22, 2006.

  1. Jason_L

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    So someone in the Texasfishing forum linked me here when I asked about tackle for a big-e trip. This place has been great,so much useful information. I have also recieved alot of help in answering my questions from another TFF member,but don't wish to bug them as much anymore :D As of now I have zero offshore gear,and 5 or 6 months to put together some nice rigs,so I figured to start now so the wallet doesnt feel so hurt buying it all at once. I have come to the understanding that a rig for chunk and a rig for pop'rs and jigs is a must,now my question is,with the bait rig,does it have to be a big rig? As of now I have a spinning rig that I use for surf fishing that has 25lb mono on it,would that be enough,or would I have to go bigger?Or could i use the jig setup up to fish for bait as well? I was told about the hoo-x and after doing research on it think it will be the reel I will get,I looked at the tiagra 30;s and 50's last night at BPS and they seemed like monsters,real havey,didn't really like that part. My question is will the hoo-x be a good reel for chunking? And what rating should the rod I put it on be? For jigging as of right now I am leaning towards a 9500ss penn,but was also recommended a Shimano Sphero 14000,anyone have a preference?If i go with the 9500 it would come with a Crowder 6'8" ST5066 brand new for 220 local. If not,then what rod would you suggest putting the shimano on,was pointed to Bar Bar Custom rods,anyone else have a recommendation?LOL wow I typed a story,sorry to have it run so long,usually i just impulsively buy things,can tell by my bass fishing gear ;). But since I have a while to look around,I would really like to get some well rounded opinions,I know in the end it comes down to what you can afford and what works for you,but I do need some sort of starting point,and I have been very fortunate to get the opinions of some seasoned fisherman. My orig price range was 5-6hundred for 2 rigs,now its looking like that much each lol which is ok,rather have something that will last then having to buy something that will need to replaced in a year.Again,thanks guys for taking the time.
     
  2. ashton

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    In my opinion you need a 2 speed reel for chunking with a max drag of about 30lbs. I like the penn 16vsx and avet makes a I think an EX 40/2 that is sweet. match either reel with a tallus shimano rod they have a limited lifetime warranty. As far as the jigging and popping that will have to be somebody elses job to give an opinion as I am not real familiar with it.
     

  3. SkeeterRonnie

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    nice site huh.... welcome to 360Tuna!

    What city are you in Jason?
     
  4. Minnow

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    So someone in the Texasfishing forum linked me here when I asked about tackle for a big-e trip. This place has been great,so much useful information. I have also recieved alot of help in answering my questions from another TFF member,but don't wish to bug them as much anymore :D As of now I have zero offshore gear,and 5 or 6 months to put together some nice rigs,so I figured to start now so the wallet doesnt feel so hurt buying it all at once. I have come to the understanding that a rig for chunk and a rig for pop'rs and jigs is a must,now my question is,with the bait rig,does it have to be a big rig? As of now I have a spinning rig that I use for surf fishing that has 25lb mono on it,would that be enough,or would I have to go bigger?Or could i use the jig setup up to fish for bait as well? I was told about the hoo-x and after doing research on it think it will be the reel I will get,I looked at the tiagra 30;s and 50's last night at BPS and they seemed like monsters,real havey,didn't really like that part. My question is will the hoo-x be a good reel for chunking? And what rating should the rod I put it on be? For jigging as of right now I am leaning towards a 9500ss penn,but was also recommended a Shimano Sphero 14000,anyone have a preference?If i go with the 9500 it would come with a Crowder 6'8" ST5066 brand new for 220 local. If not,then what rod would you suggest putting the shimano on,was pointed to Bar Bar Custom rods,anyone else have a recommendation?LOL wow I typed a story,sorry to have it run so long,usually i just impulsively buy things,can tell by my bass fishing gear ;). But since I have a while to look around,I would really like to get some well rounded opinions,I know in the end it comes down to what you can afford and what works for you,but I do need some sort of starting point,and I have been very fortunate to get the opinions of some seasoned fisherman. My orig price range was 5-6hundred for 2 rigs,now its looking like that much each lol which is ok,rather have something that will last then having to buy something that will need to replaced in a year.Again,thanks guys for taking the time.

    Welcom to 360tuna.

    Your 25# spinning out fit is too lite for tuna, you can use that rig for catching bait or casting bait to mahi mahi. I have no idea about Hoo-X, if it's single speed reel, most likely is not a really good candidate for chunking. JMO
    If you are looking to purchase spinning reel, check out Fin-Nor Offshore 9500. this reel is about the same price range as Penn 9500.

    For chunking reel, find a used Shimano Tiagra, Penn, Avet and Daiwa 16,20, and 30 size reel, they will get the job done nicely.
    Get a custom rod wrap for you or purchase a used custom rod will be a better way to go.

    Custom rod they are couple rod builders in this forum, Txseadog, and Savage rods, they can build all kinds of rod for you.

    Are you in DFW area? you are welcome to stop by and check out the Fin_nor reel and pull on some blanks I have.

    Oti have jigging blanks for sale :D http://www.360tuna.com/37-buy-sell-trade/t-349/oti-rod-blanks/
     
  5. bpitcher

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    Chunking:
    For chunking I'd reccomend skipping the 30's and going straight to a 50. While most gulf tuna can be caught on smaller reels, the 50 serves it's purpose elsewhere too: heavy bottom fishing, lump fishing, swordfishing, trolling. Spool with 130 jb hollowcore spectra and insert the mono or flouro topshot of your choice.
    Jigging:
    IMO, skip the trevala crap that rod has way too much give and no backbone. Sea Magic rods in Galveston makes a very good jigging rod. There are plenty of other options out there as well.

    As far as reels go, there are more choices coming out daily. I really like the Avet LX 2 speed, it has plenty of drag and the low gear turns this reel into a winch. I also like the shimano Kiakon 4000T, I find the line counter EXTREMELY helpful. Once you see the fish on the finder it becomes just a matter of dropping down to the depth you saw them at and repeating. Just a word of advice though: the counters are in meters. So, get up on your conversions. In addition to these two I've named, there are a gazillion other reels on the market.

    Topwater:
    For topwater I would reccomend a spinning reel. They're relatively trouble free with no worries about backlash. There are a lot of spinners on the market now that will handle tuna: Diawa Saltiga, Accurate Twinspin, Shimano Stella, etc.

    As for rods, there are some decent ones on the market, I believe islanders makes a good one. Txseadog on this board makes a great tuna spinning rod. I had the pleasure of using one of his rods paired with a Diawa Saltiga earlier this year on the Big E. I had many people approach me and marvel at the distance I was getting with each cast. The rod felt great fighting fish and had rod rings in case I needed a harness.

    Hope this helps.

    Brad
     
  6. ksong

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    TJ,
    Avet Hoo-X is two speed lever drag reels. I don't think the reel is available until Feb. The reel is slightly bigger and heavier than Avet LX,has 26-27 lbs max drag at strike and weighs about 28 oz.
    I have a great expectation from the reel for jigging big tuna. When using braided line for main line, the reel could be a good choice for bait fishing too.
     
  7. Jason_L

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    Ya,think the hoo-x is a two speed,thanks for the tip Ashton,ah ok you do have the same name,I posted you as the person who referred me skeeterRon.
    And minnow,I was just going to use the 25# for bait fishing,that way I didnt have to buy another setup. And i just found the info on the hoo-x and it said it will be a 2 speed. I looked at crosstimbers site,but couldn't find any info on the site on how to order,maybe I am just over looking something. Also when you buy "blank rods" you have to have it customized right? Wouldn't mind doing that either,but really dont know what to look for or get in those situations,would just go with what I read or people suggest. And I am in austin,so locally I have about zero places that offer anything. I went to BPS in San Anontonio last night and found some rods,but the reels were real limited. Am going to try and get out to Roys Tackle over the holiday season and try and make some choices after seeing everything first hand,I don't know about anyone else but its hard for me to buy something I haven't at least touched in real life.Again thanks for the replies guys,I really like how this site brings GOM fishermen together,most of the sites I have been trying to do research on are spread all over and its hard to know if everything will work well in our area.
     
  8. Jason_L

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    Just now saw your posts bpitcher,thanks for the input,and that does make since,I would like something big enough to server all purposes,and not have to buy a second when I feel I must upgrade,or have to use it in another way. I just thought the 30s,and 50s were so heavy,do they feel balanced on the right rod?
     
  9. Minnow

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    TJ,
    Avet Hoo-X is two speed lever drag reels. I don't think the reel is available until Feb. The reel is slightly bigger and heavier than Avet LX,has 26-27 lbs max drag at strike and weighs about 28 oz.
    I have a great expectation from the reel for jigging big tuna. When using braided line for main line, the reel could be a good choice for bait fishing too.

    Thanks ksong.

    I can't wait to get a hold of one :D, any prototype report on this reel yet?
     
  10. bpitcher

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    Just now saw your posts bpitcher,thanks for the input,and that does make since,I would like something big enough to server all purposes,and not have to buy a second when I feel I must upgrade,or have to use it in another way. I just thought the 30s,and 50s were so heavy,do they feel balanced on the right rod?
    Weight should be much of a problem with the right rod. Rod is all about preference, I perfer a short (5'6") rod, while some east coast guys fish 6' or more. This also depends on your appication too. For you I would reccomend a relatively shot rod with a straight butt so you can use the rail if you so desire. Calstar makes some great rods as do Chaos and many others. Spend some time checking out rods to find out what feels right to you.

    Brad
     
  11. Jason_L

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    Thanks again Brad,ya I was looking at the 6ft rods yesterday at BPS,and like the feel of them,the 6'6-7 seemed a little big and felt odd.I am a pretty big guy, 5'10,220 so I will be able to handle a rod that might take a bit more muscle,those tiagras were just monsters compared to my baitcast reels for bassfishing,lol then again the biggest bass I ever caught would be bait for these big boys. :)
     
  12. SkeeterRonnie

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    find you a West Marine and go pull on a Seeker Black steel... if yo like it, let me know and I will see what I can get it for.... I think the one model they have would be a good setup of a 50W for AJ/chunking. then you would need a jiggin, and a topwater rig
     
  13. Jason_L

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    Ya,think we have two,have heard they sold some fishing stuff,but thought they were just boats. I will def. go check them out over the holidays,just another one to add to the list. LOL I might have to go after I get back from Vegas though,b/c if I don't I might end up broke watching tv in vegas after spending all my money on gear! Thanks for the heads up SkRonnie,appreciate it.
     
  14. Argo

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    jason L, if you are in SA I will let you handle an avet 50W or narrow so you can check it out in person if you havent yet. I also have a couple chaos rods you can check out.
     
  15. Argo

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    oh yeah, I am a big guy too and like having the extra drag of the avet 50's but if I had the extra ching I would get the Trex 30W from avet. it puts out gobbs of drag.
     
  16. Jason_L

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    Thanks argo,I am close,I am in Austin,I go to SA alot to visit my GF. Over the holidays I am going to go back out to BPS and really look over the rods,and also check out cabelas,and new to the list West Marine. Hopefully in the next few weeks I will be able to get away to Roys and really look around.
     
  17. Argo

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    I live right off of 35 and 1604 so just let me know
     
  18. Jason_L

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    Awesome,thanks for the invite.You would think fisherman would be more crabbish,and not want to share as much to make people catch less,but its great,everyone is more then happy to give an opinion on anything,and they are worth while opinions. lol
     
  19. Argo

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    to be honest, most of us would give people the shirts off our backs. I would not have too big of a problem loaning out a rod/reel combo as long as liability was accepted. :)
     
  20. ksong

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    Thanks ksong.

    I can't wait to get a hold of one :D, any prototype report on this reel yet?
    I read that they are going to test this reel on the Shogun trip beginning November 24,2006.
    I am very curious how they solve the binding problem as drag increases which is common on small lever drag reels.