[panamasportfishinglodge]

NEW IDEA FROM DIFFERENT MEMBERS ABOUT THE PANAMA JIGGING&POPPING TOURNAMENT MAY 16-23 /09
FIRST LOWER THE ENTRY FEE TO 2,300 per person OR 9,200 per boat ALL INCLUSIVE

MAKE IT A 5 DAYS OF FISHING,MAYBE 3 OR 4DAYS OF TOURNAMENT AND1 OR 2 DAYS OF FUN FISH

PUT 4 ANGLERS TO A BOAT AND MAKE IT A TEAM BOAT TOURNAMENT( 7 BOATS ONLY -YOUR ONLY COMPETING WITH 6 OTHER BOAT)THIS IS GOOD IF YOU HAVE A GROUP THAT YOU NORMALLY FISH WITH

WE ARE ALSO RAISING THE PRICE MONEY FOR THE BIGGEST YFT to 8k

TAKE out ALL THE COSTLY LUXURY HOTEL AND EXPENSIVE HOTEL DINNER, LUXURY TRANSFER

ANGLERS ARRIVE ON THE 16TH AND WILL BE DIRECTLY SHUTTLED FROM AIRPORT TO THE LODGE

MAY17TH PRE-FISH dayTOURNAMENT MEETING GET ACQUAINTANCE WITH THE CREW
TOURNAMENT DAYS 18,19,20,21ST AWARD NIGHT AND TOURNAMENT PARTY,22ND.RETURN TO PTY AND DO THE PANAMA CANAL TOUR,HOTEL ACCOMMODATION FOR THE EVENING INCLUDED
MAY 23RD FLY OUT

THANKS FOR THE DIFFERENT SUGGESTIONS,SINCE THIS IS OUR FIRST YEAR FOR THE TOURNAMENT WE ARE TRYING TO PUT THE BEST FUN TOURNEY IN THE JIGGING & POPPING

 

[gman]

so am I understanding this correctly the cost of the trip is the $3500 plus $2300 entry fee

 

[Minnow]

Glen,

This is just another optional way for us to set up this tournament.

$3500 entry fee is based on 3 anglers per boat, 7 boat total,an individual tournament. first class accommodations in Panama city, first class meals, wine, beer and liqueurs all inclusive. 4 days tournament, plus one day pre fish before tournament or 1 day fun fishing after the tournament is included in this price.

$2300 entry fee is based on 4 anglers per boat, 7 boat total, this is a team tournament.

i hope this will clear things up.

 

[gimmedeal]

It sounds like there's enough interest to increase the number of fishermen from 21 to 28 and lower the price. I'm up for that and additional days fishing whether it be pre-tournament or fun fish or whatever is okay with me. I'd have to pass if it goes to $5800 though.
I WANNA FISH PANAMA. That 8K could grow too with a little big fish pot.

 

[ksong]

$2300 for 5 day fishing with four guys on a boat with a chance of winning $8000 per boat ?
John, it is a better deal than our trip on April.
Why don't you bring 16 guys on four boats on my trip for a tournament.

 

[gman]

i hope this will clear things up.

It does i thought he meant $3500 plus $2300, my mistake. #people is ideal any more becomes problematic IMHO

 

[ksong]

I like the idea of driving to the lodge from Panama instead of flying to David because of airline luggage restrictions. When I went to Panama Sportfishing Lodge in Jan, we drove and the 5 hour driving was not bad all.
I read that the Air Panama allow only one 10 pound carry-on bag and one 25 pound checked bag from Panama to David.

 

[panamasportfishinglodge]

$2300 for 5 day fishing with four guys on a boat with a chance of winning $8000 per boat ?
John, it is a better deal than our trip on April.
Why don't you bring 16 guys on four boats on my trip for a tournament.

KIL , TO MAKE THIS TOURNAMENT WORK,WE HAVE TO "HAVE" 21 ANGLERS AT 3,500 (3 PER BOAT) OR 28 ANGLERS AT 2,300 (4 PER BOAT)AND HELP FROM A FEW SPONSORS,WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE BEST NUMBER OF ANGLERS PER BOAT AND CREATE TEAMS SO WE CAN LOWER THE ENTRY AND ALSO HAVING TEAMS MAKES IT MUCH EASIER TO HAVE A TOURNAMENT GAME PLAN ,YOUR APRIL TRIP IS A "DEAL",I AM SURE WE CAN COME UP WITH A FRIENDLY TOURNAMENT ON YOUR TRIP "BIGGEST YFT"

 

[ksong]

No problem, John. I have my own idea. I am thinking about daily pool by collecting $10 or $20 from 12 guys for pool money each day and it goes to a fisherman who catch the biggest fish. And the guy who win the pool most buys a lunch for everyone at Chinese dimusm place when we go to Panama City last day.

 

[fishyhat]

WE ARE ALSO RAISING THE PRICE MONEY FOR THE BIGGEST YFT to 8k

Question, so now the biggest YFT is worth $8,000 CASH ?

Plus the biggest Cubera gets $ 2,000 Cash and $2,000 Gift cert
and the biggest Rooster gets $1,000 Cash and $1,000 gift cert ?

Have you decided how the biggest is going to be determined
for the cubera and rooster fish ? weight ?

And the $5,000 gift cert bonus for the grand slam ?

Adding all these prizes up, I only come up with $20,000
and 5,000 of that 20,000 is on contingency,
only won if a grand slam is caught on jig/popper.

Website says $25,000 is prizes, am I missing something ?

 

[fishyhat]

Question - What if ?

What if no tuna is caught during the tournament.
what happens to the $8,000 prize money ?

While unlikely, this is fishing,
and anything is possible,
bad weather for a few days, it is the tropics,
or if the red tide shows up,
as it usually does in May and shuts down the fishing,
then what happens with the prize money ?

 

[Minnow]

fishyhat]Question, so now the biggest YFT is worth $8,000 CASH ? Yes, we decided to do 28 anglers on this tournament.

Plus the biggest Cubera gets $ 2,000 Cash and $2,000 Gift cert
and the biggest Rooster gets $1,000 Cash and $1,000 gift cert ? Yes

Have you decided how the biggest is going to be determined
for the cubera and rooster fish ? weight ? Not yet, we are working on it

And the $5,000 gift cert bonus for the grand slam ? Yes, Grand Slam price will be awarded to a team that catches all 4 species. In case nobody catch 4 species, we will do a drawing for this price

Adding all these prizes up, I only come up with $20,000
and 5,000 of that 20,000 is on contingency,
only won if a grand slam is caught on jig/popper.
We have not get all the sponsors together, so far we have about $25k in Cash and prices (rods, poppers, jigs and reels). We should have more than $25k in cash and prices after all sponsors are in.

Website says $25,000 is prizes, am I missing something ?[/QUOTE]

 

[fishyhat]

Questionn - Boats and Captains ?

If we sign up, do we get to choose the captain
and boat for our team ?

Would like to be able to choose my boat,
as I can't see how 4 guys are going to toss
poppers at the same time on a 27 foot Pursuit Express
with no easy bow access,
or on the 27 foot Edgewater,
which my friend owns one and is a tight fit for 4 people fishing,
would say impossible to pop 4 at the same time on that boat.
Don't want to be sitting down for 1/2 the fishing time
so we can take turns fishing,
not what I am looking to spend my money on,
hope you can understand, thanks.

Thanks for the answers about the priz money

 

[Minnow]

For those who doesn't have their own team mate, we will do a drawing to pair them. Drawing for boat and Capt will be at the meeting on May 17.

29ft Stamas will have enough room to accommodate casting from the bow and stern.

John is working on getting 34ft SeeVee and 31 or 36ft Contender.

Btw, all the boat will be traveling at 30 knots so every body will be start fishing at the same time or at least at the same travel speed to and from fishing ground.

IF we do 4 anglers per boat, 4 anglers will be working together as a team, considerations between team members are highly recommended .

IF we do 3 anglers per boat, it will be an individual tournament.
In this case we will arrange 2 anglers in the bow and one angler in the stern, switching places are highly recommended.

 

[fishyhat]

Do you have pictures of the all the different boats in this tournament ?
That would really be a big help in deciding our participation,
would like to see what I might be fishing on
and how the boat is layed out.

29 STAMAS C/C
31 STAMAS C/C
33 STAMAS EXPRESS
30 PURSUIT C/C
27 EDGEWATER C/C
27 PURSUIT EXPRESS
30 SCARAB OR A 34 SEAVEE (TBA)

I'm still a little confused about the boats, sorry for having
to ask so many questions.

You said "Btw, all the boat will be traveling at 30 knots"
This confuses me a bit.

When I look at the PSF Lodge website it states :

"BRAND NEW STAMAS YACHT 29FT CENTER CONSOLE WITH TWIN 4 STROKE OUTBOARDS "

But when you look at the pictures posted on their website,
and your tournament website,
it shows 2 different Stamas CC boats,
one with Yamaha outboards, which are clearly NOT 4 stroke motors,
and another Stamas CC boat with SUZUKI 140 HP motors ???

How does a boat with twin 140's travel at the same speed
as the same boat with twin 200's ????
And why does it say 4 stroke yami's, but I don't see any ?

Is there any way for my team to choose its boat and captain ?
Could I pay extra for this choice,
instead of having to draw for a boat that I might not want to fish on ?

Yami 2 strokes on the back of this stamas

Suzuki 4 stroke 140's on this stamas ????

 

[Minnow]

Do you have pictures of the all the different boats in this tournament ?
I will have all the boats picture post on tournament site soon
That would really be a big help in deciding our participation,
would like to see what I might be fishing on
and how the boat is layed out.

29 STAMAS C/C
31 STAMAS C/C
33 STAMAS EXPRESS
30 PURSUIT C/C
27 EDGEWATER C/C
27 PURSUIT EXPRESS
30 SCARAB OR A 34 SEAVEE (TBA)

I'm still a little confused about the boats, sorry for having
to ask so many questions. No problem at all, John and I will be happy to answer all your questions the best we can.

You said "Btw, all the boat will be traveling at 30 knots"
This confuses me a bit. We will limit the speed on all boats to 30 knots max so faster boat won't have advantage over the slower boat. I hope this will cleat things up a bit.

When I look at the PSF Lodge website it states :

"BRAND NEW STAMAS YACHT 29FT CENTER CONSOLE WITH TWIN 4 STROKE OUTBOARDS "

But when you look at the pictures posted on their website,
and your tournament website,
it shows 2 different Stamas CC boats,
one with Yamaha outboards, which are clearly NOT 4 stroke motors,
and another Stamas CC boat with SUZUKI 140 HP motors ???

How does a boat with twin 140's travel at the same speed
as the same boat with twin 200's ???? 30 knots max speed on all boat rules.
And why does it say 4 stroke yami's, but I don't see any ? I willhave john answer that question

Is there any way for my team to choose its boat and captain ? Captn and boat will be based on lucky draw
Could I pay extra for this choice, No, it won't be fair to other competitors
instead of having to draw for a boat that I might not want to fish on ?[/QUOTE]

 

[panamasportfishinglodge]

Question - What if ?

What if no tuna is caught during the tournament.
what happens to the $8,000 prize money ?

While unlikely, this is fishing,
and anything is possible,
bad weather for a few days, it is the tropics,
or if the red tide shows up,
as it usually does in May and shuts down the fishing,
then what happens with the prize money ?
THIS IS GREAT ,THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR , FEEDBACKS TO MAKE THIS TOURNEY THE BEST THAT WE CAN MAKE IT,THERE IS ALWAYS THE POSSIBILITY OF ACT OF GOD,THE RAINY SEASON THIS YEAR GOT PUSH A COUPLE OF MONTHS LONGER , SO WE SHOULD HAVE BETTER WEATHER THIS MAY ,TUNA FISHING WAS NOT AFFECTED TO MUCH WITH THE REDTIDE,WE JUST HAVE TO RUN A LITTLE FARTHER OUT,WE HAVE NOT DECIDE ON NO TUNA CATCH AWARD,BUT IMPOSSIBLE HAPPENS,WE WILL DISCUSS THIS IN THE MEANTIME

 

[crazyjigr]

How many spots are available?

 

[panamasportfishinglodge]

Do you have pictures of the all the different boats in this tournament ?
I will have all the boats picture post on tournament site soon
That would really be a big help in deciding our participation,
would like to see what I might be fishing on
and how the boat is layed out.

29 STAMAS C/C
31 STAMAS C/C
33 STAMAS EXPRESS
30 PURSUIT C/C
27 EDGEWATER C/C
27 PURSUIT EXPRESS
30 SCARAB OR A 34 SEAVEE (TBA)

I'm still a little confused about the boats, sorry for having
to ask so many questions. No problem at all, John and I will be happy to answer all your questions the best we can.

You said "Btw, all the boat will be traveling at 30 knots"
This confuses me a bit. We will limit the speed on all boats to 30 knots max so faster boat won't have advantage over the slower boat. I hope this will cleat things up a bit.

When I look at the PSF Lodge website it states :

"BRAND NEW STAMAS YACHT 29FT CENTER CONSOLE WITH TWIN 4 STROKE OUTBOARDS "

But when you look at the pictures posted on their website,
and your tournament website,
it shows 2 different Stamas CC boats,
one with Yamaha outboards, which are clearly NOT 4 stroke motors,
and another Stamas CC boat with SUZUKI 140 HP motors ???

How does a boat with twin 140's travel at the same speed
as the same boat with twin 200's ???? 30 knots max speed on all boat rules.
And why does it say 4 stroke yami's, but I don't see any ? I willhave john answer that question

Is there any way for my team to choose its boat and captain ? Captn and boat will be based on lucky draw
Could I pay extra for this choice, No, it won't be fair to other competitors
instead of having to draw for a boat that I might not want to fish on ?

[/QUOTE]
THE BOATS ARE GOING TO CRUISE AT THE NORMAL CRUISE ,(NOT AT WIDE OPEN),SOME BOATS ARE 10 TO 15 MINS FASTER ONLY ,THAT IS WHY WE PUT THE ALL LINE IN AT 7:30 AM,REMEMBER THE TEAM CHOOSES THE LOCATION TO FISH ,AS FAR AS THE CAPTAINS WE CHOSE THE TOP TEN BEST CAPT. IN THIS AREA.THEY ARE ALL PROS. ,IT IS NOT EASY TO PUT THIS GROUP OF CAPTS. TOGETHER,WE HAVE THE BEST OF THE BEST ,AS SOON AS I GATHER PICTURES AND COMPLETE RESUME'S OF ALL THE CAPTS. I WILL POST IT ,WE ARE STILL PUTTING THE BEST BOATS TO WORK THE TOURNEY,SO EVERY BOAT WILL BE SIMILAR

 

[gman]

tip more ... travel faster ...hahahahaahahahhaha only joking.

Listen I just got back from there and had an amazing time with amazing results.

For those of you interested who havent seen this click here http://www.360tuna.com/forum/f76/panama-carnage-4006/

Regardless of the rules regulations and competition having the opportunity to fish along some of the better casters and guides is amazing in itself never mind the beautiful scenary

To me its the journey and not the desitination but hell i will take homes some cash if you want to give it to me