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About once a year we run into mahi during our sharking trips off the coast of RI. When we do see them, we're pretty successful getting them to hang around the boat (hooked fish with rod in the rod holder, throwing chunks of our shark bait to keep them occupied etc). The little guys seem to hit anything that we throw at them, but the bigger fish under the smaller fish ignore everything. It doesn't appear they're even eating the chunks. We don't have live bait on board, so we're limited to lures and jigs (and flies if I have my 10wt with me). So....to the mahi masters out there, is there something else we should be trying? Not looking for family secrets, maybe just a hint or two. :)
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The bulls will be skirting on the edge of the pack of smaller dolphin-
best to use a spinning reel - use one hook - cast whole squid with
hook placed in position so when you are pulling it in looks like a
natural swimming squid - try different speeds till you find the speed that
the bigger dolphin will hit
i throw snapper slappers tipped with squid

May not be able to find Slappers in R.I. Here's a link Snapper Slapper
I have encountered schools of Mahi off Florida countless times and the smaller fish are typically more aggressive as you describe; they have to eat more often to survive. What you are encountering is the larger fish are not expending energy in exchange for smaller food sources that contested by thongs of smaller fish. Too much competition and the bigger fish will wait.

They have to eat like the smaller fish but seek better energy-for-food exchange. As you may know, Mahi are a short cycle fish never living more than 5 or 6 years so they grow and die fast which means they almost never stop eating. A 30-40 pound fish is likely only 2 years old and there have been documented fish that have grown 30 pounds in one year under good conditions.

What you might try is a large, deep running Rapala or a large, bright colored Marlin lure trolled if you can get off the drift from your shark fishing or casting large poppers if you have no live bait; the small fish my give chase but a 7 inch popper is likely get the interest of the larger fish. If you speed the retrieve to be faster than what the smaller fish might want to chase, the large fish with get more interested.

Another thing to try to see if you can get some live bait around the school using a Sabiki. If you are able to catch some live bait, chum the small fish to the boat and cast the live bait well past the small fish where the larger fish will beat them to chasing the live bait.

Some ideas to try anyway. Best of luck!

Hope that helps.
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the best way to turn the bull and cows on is with live chuming....
the big mahi also react a lot when the hooked fish is left in the water for to long... once it start changing color they usually go away or start hanging deeper under the school. and this is when the jig comes handy and that is how i catch them on jigs.

jigs start to work for about 10 minutes after the feeding frenzy starts.

now my top secret
drop a flasher down about 40ft and bring it up and down for couple minutes, you just want to attract them back to your boat, you don't want them to find out that the flasher is not a fish. a good mahi bite last for 10 min or so and usually when the kings arrive they leave.

some people on the keys like to hit the water with paddles and cause a splash... and is said to bring the bull up.

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One of my favorite trips every year is pot hopping below MV. And yes you are correct, they can be silly easy to catch or have complete lockjaw. I am no expert, but I have had fairly consistent success in our area.

I use the standard tricks:

1. Leave the first one hooked in the water while you fish for others
2. Live bait
3. Dead bait (swap out the kind of bait... use butterfish chunks and when that shuts off use ballyhoo, and when that shuts off use bluefish, etc)
4. Jigging
5. etc....

Another thing that works is leaving that particular pot for an hour and coming back. Once they spook, they
are tough to hook. But they calm back down after a while..... this is not really practical if this is just a side
line to shark chumming (don't leave the slick).

As a side note, I did find that they shut off at slack.... it sort of surprised me. I was expecting them to light up.
But I don't have enough experience to know if what I notice was a trend or an anomoly.

It is tons of fun on light tackle and tastes great!!! So when is that really good water going to push the big mahi
up so that the little guys have a shot? I know there are some out there but not in concentrated numbers or locations....

Mike
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What also works really nice is the double hooked speck rigs...if u hook one with those (mainly chicken dolphin)...that would be ur teaser to attract the healthier ones...give it try.

astro..
I've always had good success with medium sized poppers like the yozuri hydro tiger. also caught them by dropping butterfly jigs fast to get below the schools if they are deep
Dynamite may work too.

hahahaha I was thinking the same
All true. We used to keep the first fish in the water to keep others near. Sometimes slapping or stirring the water vigorously with the rod tip will make them turn and smack the lure.

A funny anecdote. There was an occasion when we had so many 4-6 lb mahi around the boat it was impossible to fish for anything else. A buddy was rigging up a huge dead squid with dental floss to try and get one of the big bulls he saw cruising around. When he got done he set the rod down leaning it against the gunwale with the rigged squid dangling 2-3 ft off the water while he wiped his hands. Well a mahi jumped clear out of the water and nailed his squid. Taking his rod with it.
take a shotgun and shoot the mother f*%^ers!!
take a shotgun and shoot the mother f*%^ers!!

I've often thought of this for the trip out to perdido with flying fish.....

I can't find it now, but years ago, somebody posted a video on the old deepjigging.com
of a guy arrowing a 30# mahi with a compound off the deck of a sportie.
I would love to try that!
I've always had good success with medium sized poppers like the yozuri hydro tiger. also caught them by dropping butterfly jigs fast to get below the schools if they are deep

I got a med sized one last year on a popper. It hit it hard and jumped twice. I got it to the boat the mate missed with the gaff and the fish freaked out and broke off. Not sure why they do that, but if you don't gaff them quick they freak out for some reason.
We catch them on soft baits here in New Zealand if they have lock jaw
3m of 30lb fluoro 1/0 owner gorilla hook with a live, also through a whole heap of live chum in
This what has always worked for me and in a pinch I'll use an 1-2oz spro or similar jig tipped with squid. They are suckers for fresh squid The bulls will be skirting on the edge of the pack of smaller dolphin-
best to use a spinning reel - use one hook - cast whole squid with
hook placed in position so when you are pulling it in looks like a
natural swimming squid - try different speeds till you find the speed that
the bigger dolphin will hit
a whole squid thrown in their face works wonders and also try the smaller Waxwings.....
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