LIMITED LOAD CHARTER 2007

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  1. Minnow

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    2007 is just around the corner, I wonder how many people are interested in limited load, say 25 people max charter aboard the BIG E for 2007.
     
  2. ksong

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    2007 is just around the corner, I wonder how many people are interested in limited load, say 25 people max charter aboard the BIG E for 2007.

    Depending on the charter dates.
     

  3. fishingduck

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    I'm interested if it is later in the year.
     
  4. Backlash Scott

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    I would be interested depending on the dates.
    Backlash Scott
     
  5. Jason_L

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    How long of a trip would it be,and how much?
     
  6. Minnow

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    At this point I am not sure how long the trip will be and how much.
    I am guessing cost will be somewhere $1040 to 1500 depending the how many days we want to fish.
    52 hours charter is $26000/25anglers=$1040 per person.

    If we have enough interests, we can ask TOO to help us with booking the boat.
     
  7. MrBill

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    If you limit it to 25, count me in as long as the date works out. 40 is a crowd.
     
  8. Minnow

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    My wife can't fish with 40 people on that boat either. She wanted to cast popper so bad on our last trip TBB'06 but she was too intimidated to do so.

    With 25 people casting will be easier to handle.
     
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  10. Bret

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  11. Minnow

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    We have 9 so far, few more people interested we can start to contact TOO.
     
  12. TeamOso

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    For the GEM thing?
     
  13. ALW

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    I am interested. Could some rotation rules be made on throwing the top waters? It would take a lot less than 25 to make a difference if the same people were throwing top waters that were on the TBB trip. 30 would be ok if some roation or time slot was set up for the top water slinging areas. There was plenty of room for Jigging and chunking. I would probably not do much topwater if the same 6-8 folks are a the back corner all nite.
     
  14. LEXPRO

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    Interested dependant on dates...
     
  15. mcgolfer

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    take me!!!take me!!!! with only 25 going i could have the whole uper deck for my tackle.....rick
     
  16. MrBill

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    Mark me down for two. I shouldn't have any problem finding a friend to put up with me.
     
  17. Minnow

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    What do you guys think about this trip for May 2007? New moon will be on the 14-21, we can fish 3 days or 4 days or even 5 days and we can dedicate one evening to target swordfish :D if everybody agree.

    Smaller crowds will be easier to get everybody to agree on one thing. JMO

    We might run into Giant bluefin tuna on May, just a thought.
     
  18. Bret

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    Tj, I think we can only legally keep a bluefin after june 1st.. somebody correct me if Iam wrong.. but I seem to remember some texas boys catching one on may 29th. and got a ticket....... That time of the year would be good for me...
     
  19. TeamOso

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    How much $$$???

    I knwo I have no chance of having enough money, but there is always a dream isnt there? Some day Ill get on the big E.

    Takin donation;)


    Kevin
     
  20. Minnow

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    Bret,
    i coppied this from NMFS website.
    Recreational Atlantic Tunas Retention Limits
    The recreational daily bluefin tuna (BFT) retention limit through May 31, 2007, is 2 BFT (47 inches to less than 73 inches) per vessel per day/trip, effective in all areas, for the entire fishing year. Also, vessels fishing under the Angling category may retain 1 BFT (73 inches or greater) per vessel per year as a 搕rophy?fish for the boat. The recreational yellowfin tuna daily retention limit is 3 yellowfin/person. The minimum size for yellowfin and bigeye tuna is 27" curved fork length. There are no recreational limits for bigeye, skipjack or albacore tunas.

    General Category 3 Fish Bag Limit Extended and Restricted Fishing Days waived for December
    The daily Atlantic bluefin tuna (BFT) retention limit for vessels fishing under the General category quota has been raised to 3 large medium or giant BFT (73 inches or greater) per vessel per day/trip through the month of December. In addition all previously scheduled Restricted Fishing Days (RFDs) are waived. These actions are being taken to enhance commercial General category BFT fishing opportunities for all geographic areas. On January 1, 2006, the retention limit is scheduled to revert to one BFT per vessel and all scheduled RFDs for the month of January remain as published in the Final BFT quota and effort controls specifications. Additional inseason adjustments may be made, as necessary.

    Landings of Large Medium and Giant Bluefin to date
    As of 11/28/2006 fishing year landings of Atlantic bluefin tuna are as follows: The Coastwide General Category has landed 104.9 mt out of 1163.3 mt to date. The Harpoon category closed at: 22.2 mt. Longline North: 24.1 out of 150.4 mt to date. Longline South: 2.5 mt out of 117.8 mt to date. Purse Seine: 3.6 mt out of 624.1 mt to date. Landings updates will be made as necessary.

    HARPOON CATEGORY FISHERY CLOSED
    The Harpoon category fishery landed a total of 22.2 metric tons (mt) out of a possible 124.0 mt allocated for the 2006 fishing year. This fishery will reopen on June 1, 2007, for the 2007 fishing year.

    THREE RECENT UPDATES TO THE HMS PERMITTING SYSTEM
    ?(1) HMS E-MAIL NOTIFICATION LIST DEVELOPED ?The Highly Migratory Species Management Division has created an email listserve to provide updates and notifications of HMS fishery actions. This system has replaced the previous fax based system. To subscribe to Atlantic HMS News, enter your email address into the sign-up form located at the Atlantic HMS News page at http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/sfa/hms/newslist/. ?(2) VOICE ACTIVATED TELEPHONE SYSTEM DEVELOPED ?The HMS Management Division has implemented a new voice activated telephone permit renewal and reporting system. The telephone number has remained the same, 1-888-872-8862 (1-888-USA-TUNA), yet callers can now speak their choices instead of using the keypad on their telephone. ?(3) .GOV versus .COM ?The HMSPermits website has officially been converted to a .gov site. If you experience an error message when logging on to this site please check you bookmarks.

    NEW 2006 FISHING YEAR HMS COMPLIANCE GUIDE NOW AVAILABLE
    Go to the Library for more information.

    School Bluefin Tuna Fishery Closed
    Reminder: As of 11:59 p.m., September 14, 2006, the fishery for Atlantic school bluefin tuna (27 inches to less than 47 inches) closed in all areas.

    Other HMS Recreational Limits
    The recreational daily swordfish retention limit is 1 fish per person, with a maximum of 3 fish per vessel. The minimum size for swordfish within the recreational fishery is 47 inches, lower jaw-fork length. You may not keep longbill spearfish. There are no retention limits for Atlantic sailfish, blue marlin and white marlin, but the NOAA Fisheries encourages recreational anglers to release all billfish alive. The minimum sizes for billfish are as follows: Blue Marlin: 99 inches lower jaw fork length; White Marlin: 66 inches lower jaw fork length; Sailfish: 63 inches lower jaw fork length; Spearfish: Retention prohibited. Lower jaw fork length is a straight line measurement from the tip of the lower jaw to the fork of the caudal fin. The recreational limit on sharks is 1 shark per vessel per trip with a minimum size of 54 inches fork length; plus on Atlantic sharpnose shark per person per trip(no minimum size); plus 1 bonnethead hark per person per trip (no minimum size). None of these fish may be sold, and all must be reported.

    Atlantic Tunas Program for June 1, 2006 - May 31, 2007
    For more information please visit the library and click on 2006 TUNA REGULATION BROCHURE.

    NMFS Announces 2006 Bluefin Quotas and Effort Controls
    For a full description of this action please visit the library. The BFT retention limits are as follows: The coastwide General category Atlantic BFT fishery will reopen on June 1, 2006. The daily retention limit will be three large medium or giant BFT (73 inches or greater) per vessel per day/trip from June 1 through August 31, 2006. The coastwide recreational Atlantic BFT fishery is currently open in all areas. The recreational daily BFT retention limit through May 31 is 1 BFT/vessel/day/trip, measuring 47 to less than 73" CFL. Starting on June1, the daily retention limit will be 2 BFT (47 inches to less than 73 inches) per vessel per day/trip, effective in all areas, for the entire fishing year. In addition, vessels fishing under the Angling category may retain 1 BFT (73 inches or greater) per vessel per year as a 搕rophy?fish for the boat. Also, There will be 2 windows of opportunity to harvest school BFT (27 inches to less than 47 inches) during the 2006 season. The school BFT fishery will be open in the southern area, defined as south of 39?18' N. lat. or approximately Great Egg Inlet, NJ, from July 1 to 21, 2006, during which time a retention limit of 1 school size BFT per day/trip will be in effect. In the northern area, defined as north of 39?18' N. lat., a retention limit of 1 school size BFT per day/trip will be in effect from August 25, 2006, to September 14, 2006. The school retention limit is in addition to the retention limit for large school/small medium BFT. The recreational yellowfin tuna daily retention limit is 3 yellowfin/person. The minimum size for yellowfin and bigeye tuna is 27" curved fork length. There are no recreational limits for bigeye, skipjack or albacore tunas.

    LPS BFT Length Validation Assessment Paper
    The Large Pelagics Survey (LPIS) collects length data on recreationally landed Atlantic bluefin tuna (BFT). The LPS Procedures Manual (prior to 2005) specified that interviewers should measure and record the straight fork length (SFL) of BFT, not the curved fork length (CFL) that is used to define size classes for management purposes. Recently, some members of the recreational and commercial fishing industry have questioned whether or not this procedure has been consistently followed in the field. Some individuals have reported seeing LPS interviewers measuring CFLs of landed BFT. Therefore, they have raised a concern that the interviewers may actually have been recording CFLs rather than SFLs. The CFL of a given fish is greater than its SFL by some small factor (typically between 1-5%). If such errors have occurred, then LPS estimates of landed weight of BFT by size category would most likely be positively biased since length data are converted to weights for landings estimates. This evaluation was conducted to: 1) determine the extent to which CFLs were mistakenly recorded, and the extent to which such errors may have biased the overall ABT landed weight estimate, and 2) investigate the effects that biased measurements could potentially have had on prior stock assessments.
     
  21. Minnow

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    TeamOso,

    We have not decided how many days we want to fish, pricing will be between $1040-2000 estimates.
     
  22. ksong

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