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Leader for 40~80k tuna (90~180lbs)

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Hey guys, tuna season is coming up and i wanted to know what yall are using for leaders.

I usually use pe8 for tuna just to be on the safe side and have been using 170lb mono as leader.
I would like to increase my casting distance, so i thought about droppin down to 150lb.

Pe8 has a rated breaking strength of around 100lb. In actuality its around 60~70lbs, so i doubt the leader would
break first?

What does everyone use for your pe8 setups?

Thanks,.
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Personally I wouldn't fish anything under 90lb. Seen too many fish lost at the end of the fight when the tuna is circling.

Normally I fish the Fisherman Stealth Shock Leader.
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This has been my cape cod top water leader setup since 2012. A super strong setup with no casting restrictions. It takes a little time to prepare so making a few before your thrip is necessary. I know there’s lots of guys who don’t like this setup and say it’s not worth the effort. This one and only time I had a tuna tail wrapped for most of the fight, and if it wasn’t for the twisted leader I’m sure it would not have been boated. So is it worth the effort, for me yes. That trip it proved it self and gave me what I set out to do, boat and share a 200+ pound tuna.

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Personally I wouldn't fish anything under 90lb. Seen too many fish lost at the end of the fight when the tuna is circling.

Normally I fish the Fisherman Stealth Shock Leader.
That leader is the softest and most forgiving leader I have ever used. It’s especially shines when using a short leader tied to braid. It has so much stretch that a short length has enough strength to give the perfect shock absorption.

Benny
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Don't think you'd get much of an casting distance advantage going from 170lb to 150lb, but it doesn't hurt to do a few practice casts with each to see how far you're hitting. You could try finding tapered leaders heavy enough for what you want to do, I think Sunline makes some up to #30->#18 which is a bit lighter.

I mostly use hollow braid for casting lures just from the ease of rigging. My bigger 20K setup has 80lb hollow braid (around PE8 diameter 100lb+ breaking strength) ended with a spliced loop to use with a wind-on leader. I make up fluorocarbon wind-on's with 100lb fluoro and 200lb mono with the braided loop made from the same test I'm fishing (80lb). I'll use the 200lb if they're on the surface and biting, 100lb fluoro for some sinking stickbaits and if the fish are very picky. I've had better luck with fluoro resisting abrasion than mono. The connection for 80lb braid to 200lb mono is pretty smooth but I still like to keep it outside of the tip when casting.

If casting distance is a concern going with a longer rod might be the best remedy as painful as it is. I did find that guide layout makes some difference as well, I wrapped a rod with RV40/30's after seeing the new RF Ultimo's, haven't used the rod yet but from the practice casts they do seem to work better than MN's. Although I'm not sure if 5% extra distance is worth 10X the price.
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Great thanks. I dont have much access to hollowbraid in Japan unfortunately. That connection looks super smooth.
Noted on the longer rod length. I use the RF BigTuna 85 and Aquila 85-7+ for my main tuna tackle. i guess i need more practice. I avg. around 60~65 meters with a 100g plug with no wind.
Man.. That looks complicated, i dont know if i could replicate that knot on my own.
Souls Peformance/Varivas has zylon leaders which i use for the really big COWS. These work great imo. A little costly though. VARIVAS アルティメット ファイティングリーダー – 株式会社バリバス
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Consistently hitting 60-65 meters casting actual lures is very impressive, especially for 100g. At that point lure type might make more of a difference than line. The Big Tuna 85 is a beast of a rod, it's surprising how well they can cast lighter lures despite having the pulling power.

Inline rigging is actually very simple, it just requires some tools to start but it isn't any harder to make wind on leaders. I can still use solid braid as the main line for some setups because it casts better than hollow, there are ways to splice hollow core braid on the end ~6-10 feet to create a loop or I just tie a bimini loop at the end. Here's what the bimini, spliced loop, and loop to loop connections look like.
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I've seen the ultimate fighting leaders before, they're similar to a wind-on in reverse since the zylon end is on the side of the lure. It looks like they are mainly use to avoid tying a knot in heavy mono, but wouldn't it be easier to swage the leader to the swivel at that point? I can't tie a good knot in 200lb mono so I use sleeves instead, especially since the US 200lb Momoi is the same size as 300lb Ocean Record. These are the only ways I'll use that heavy of a leader. Ignore the backwards BB swivel, I wasn't paying attention.
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Thanks, Ill def. try inline rigging some time with the bimini.
Yes, the big tuna 85 is a beast. Its good for throwing 120+g plugs into boiling fish but it is quite a heavy rod , so i prefer the aquila if im going to be casting into the blind all day.

The ultimate leader is used mainly to prevent being cut off when a fish swallows your lure whole, or when casting into baitballs dense with tuna, sometimes other tuna can slice your leader. (I think this is what happened to me last aug.)
I also use crimps for heavy mono but this leader adds the benefit of just having to do your usual braid → mono connetion and not have to worry about anything else.
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I'll have to try it, I do like the convenience of having something premade. Considering that the ball bearings they use would probably cost $6 each here it's actually a good value for us. Zylon is pretty nice for assist hooks so it probably helps a lot with not getting chewed off. A lot of people use 300-500g jigs for bluefin here in California and everyone is rigging their stuff with 150-300lb yet still manage to get chewed off on bigger fish sometimes since they swallow the whole jig.
i’ve been casting at and catching lots of cape cod bft in the 100-200# range (and bigger) for several years. i think the biggest leader i ever had on was 100#s once or twice for visibly larger fish (200-400#). one of those days we boated an 84” 400#er.

that twisty thing ? 200-300# mono ? what are you casting ? i don’t even use fluoro over 150#s for giants on my 130s ???
I'm only using 10 feet of heavier leader for 200-240mm lures in the 4-8oz range, 5 feet of which is inlined into the braid. I'm generally fishing on a 120ft boat with 30 other people so the fight lasts longer since you have to go around the boat a few times while avoiding other people who are also hooked up. We're also in 3000-5000 feet of water instead of 100-200 feet so they typically fight differently. Sometimes a 100-200lber takes 10 minutes to land, other times they're on for 90 minutes at which point I'd worry about them biting through the leader.
This is a pic of the ultimate fighting leader, 170lb.
The little knot thing is to prevent the zylon from slipping so you leave that there (dont unravel it) .
Another thing to note is, the Souls swivel is compact, which allows you pretie your leader so you can guide it through your guides before hopping on the boat no problem.

Lastly, the leader is pretty long, so you can cut it to your prefered length before tieing it to your braid. I usually end up alot of excess so i just use that as leader for my back up reel or whatever.

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