Kayak S.P.J. Questions.

Discussion in 'Jigging and Popping' started by 187Motorsports, Aug 10, 2019.

  1. 187Motorsports

    187Motorsports Member

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    I've done my fare share of reading before I have posted any questions.
    I'm trying to figure how effective slow jigging would be from a pedal kayak in around 80'. I rarely get the chance to go on a buddies buddies boat to hit 100'+ water. I enjoy to concept of it. But wondering if im just wishful dreaming. Mainly fishing around some old of oil rig platforms/stands. Mainly snapper, cobia and other smaller fish.
    Location is Texas gulf of Mexico from corpus Christi/port aransas area. Or if I should stick to typical jigging, hoping 3oz jig heads on the bottom and bait chunking.

    Thanks.
     
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  2. tugasangler

    tugasangler Fishing Guru

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    Slow jigging doesn’t seem to be half as effective in Water less than 120ft deep but some guys are starting to have some noteable catches just slightly deeper than your 80 . But for what it’s worth I’d say give it a shot .
     

  3. 187Motorsports

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    Yea, I might just piece together a kit. I'd like to go out on the yankee capt. But I only have like one friend that is semi hardcore fisherman (barley started fishing) that might eventually take a trip with me. I was eyeing the Temple reef Gravitate either g1,2 paired with maybe a bv300 lefty. since I'd RARELY RARELY get into 150'+ of water here unless. I take a head boat and all the really target is Red snapper. With strong currents I usually use 6oz jigs anything usually more than that the conditions turn nasty for kayaking. Typically I'll jig 1 1/2-5oz jigs .
     
  4. Thewooha

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    Why is that ?
    Is it due to the bottom structure, species or locations ?
     
  5. r.sheker

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    100ft below slow pitch jigging is effective but go with 30-80gram jigs.
    i have a guy in long island new york testing micro jigs for me and always do well on sea bass, fluke, bluefish.

    also have a commercial deckhand out of port canaveral testing 30-60gram jigs and has caught a.j. red snapper, rudder fish, almaco. will post those pics on my facebook page.
     
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  6. r00kieAngler

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    I say go for it but If your a novice in kayak fishing/spj it can get frustrating fast when not getting a bite. I was able cut that learning curve in half going to head boat. Once I found my go to jigs and feeling for weight/current to stay vertical with slow jigs I can say I have more success spj on my kayak. Old oil rig platforms sounds like a great advantage to tying your kayak and not be at the mercy of current. Goodluck !
     
  7. 187Motorsports

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    Thanks, I'm not new to kayak fishing at all. But super green to spj. That might be a good tip taking a head boat. I'll have to do some searching on head boats and see what they offer fish wise. I guess if all else fails I can save the gear for a rainy day.
     
  8. 187Motorsports

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    Dang, do you know how the current is there? I usually only use a 80g jig when the seas are dead calm. That's good news to hear he's doing good spj in water more to my depth level.
     
  9. r.sheker

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    current in new york is 1-2, current in cape canaveral was close to 3. the only complaint from cape canaveral was he had a a thick braid 30# and a heavy rod.

    pics of micro jigging
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  10. 187Motorsports

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    Man that looks gnarly. That be nice if we(kayakers) had that big of a variety in the waters we can reach. I'm glad I posted the question
     
  11. FalconerRods

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    187Motorsports -

    I do not want to be argumentative and there are definitely people on this forum with WAY more SPJ experience than me. But I have had tremendous success over the last three years on snapper and triggers (and Bonita and Kings and Cobia) Fishing SPJ in less than 100’ of water. I am fishing mostly out of Orange Beach, AL and Venice, LA. I typically fish jigs in the 80g - 200g range depending on current and what the fish respond well to.

    I can’t see any reason why the same would not be true in the area you are fishing. If the fish are there they will eat jigs. You won’t catch deeper water fish like grouper and tiles...but we catch Scamp regularly. Even in spots the Captain didn’t know held Scamp. Every fish pictured below - and a pile more - were caught in 100’ or less. Not sure why SPJ gotten a bad rap in shallow water? I have had anglers I respect tremendously tell me it does not work well in shallow water in Florida. I believe them...but it does work in AL and LA...for certain. I’d be super confident heading out in my Hobie with nothing but SPJ gear. Well...and a few rods to troll with. And maybe a pitch bait or popper rod for Cobia or Mahi. And maybe a speed Jigging rod for AJ...but I digress.

    To me your biggest challenge will be getting them away from structure on the light gear. More open bottom is ultimately better. A 20# snapper is hard to get away from the rig in the yak...especially on SPJ gear. But it sure is fun to try! Hope this helps...good luck.
     

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  12. explorer

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    12524B48-DF30-4A19-8A3A-52E25B9DF3CB.jpeg Sorry, trying to learn here. Did you did a finishing knot here or just half hitch finish it off?
     
  13. 187Motorsports

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    That's good to hear. Yeah, I'm gonna piece together a rig. Yeah pulling a big cobia off the rig is gonna be a good test on light line.
     
  14. kellerman2006

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    Appears to be a TN knot. Very strong.
     
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  15. 187Motorsports

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    Chain not finished by two half hitches.
     
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  17. FalconerRods

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    Hey Explorer -

    Sorry for the late reply. So that is a TN knot as Kellerman2016 spotted. It is like an AG Chain Knot that goes through the eye three times.

    I finish that knot with what I think is called a Rizzuto Finish. You basically finish it like a bowstring serve or the way you finish a PR Bobbin knot. You can also just use half hitches and ball the last one with your lighter. That knot is STRONG.
     
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  18. Kim

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    The reason for the Rizzuto Knot finish on knots like the TN Knot and the AG Chain Knot is to secure the half hitches and keep them from coming undone after repeated trips through the rod guides.
     
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  19. r.sheker

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    u are passing the leader to terminal tackle knot thru ur guides?
     
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  20. Kim

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    20170409_172500.jpg I was thinking FG Knot finish, my bad. the Rizzuto will keep the half hitches locked in place just the same.
     
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