Help With Tuna Gear

Discussion in 'Tackle and Rigging' started by ohms, Dec 28, 2006.

  1. ohms

    ohms Junior member

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    Hi all Ive just join this forum and everybody seem very helpfull here therefore can I be so bold as to ask for some advice?

    I am currently working on an oilrig in Malaysia and there are heaps of big fat tuna here, Yellow Fin I've been told by the locals. I have some fishing gear already onboard but it is woefully inadequate as some of the tuna are 40KG+ therefore I'm in the market for some new shinny gear!

    My problem is that fishing from an oilrig there are obviously sharp abrasive edges of the structure that have put an end to most of my hook ups. Therefore I need line that can not only handle the fish but nore importantly the abrasion. After doing quite alot of research on the net I believe that Momoi's Diamond line has one of the best abrasion resistance. To handle the line I was thinking about Shimano Torium 50 as it can handle heavy line. As for a rod I havent started looking yet.

    I will mostly be casting bait and lures onto rising tuna

    If anybody can give me some advice on my choices and what lures that would work I'd really appreciate it.

    As an expat living in Thailand I will have to buy the gear from the US therefore some pointers on a good online store to buy the gear and get shipped over would be great

    Ohms :confused:
     
  2. TeamOso

    TeamOso Senior Member

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    try some braided line.
     

  3. SkeeterRonnie

    SkeeterRonnie Senior Member

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    getting them to you might be a lot easier than getting them out of the water... you might look at some type of net to swim your catch in to. I would suggest a strong rod, reel that will handle a LOT of drag, and some 130# test braided line(spectra). you can float your lures out with the current, then work them back. That way you can use BIG line and not have to try and cast it. A large surface popper would be pretty neat.
     
  4. Uncle Russ

    Uncle Russ Senior Member

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    Ohms,

    I am in no way an expert on this subject as I am in the business of collecting information from these folks myself. So I am going to propose this approach to the real experts on the board for their comments:

    If the tuna Ohms is casting are mostly 100 pounds and under, and if he is not too worried about the occasional really big fish, wouldn't a Twinspin or Stella 20K loaded with about 300 yards of 80# or 100# solid spectra with a short extra heavy short mono topshot be just the ticket for tossing poppers out among them? Seems to me if he is mostly surface lure oriented and not interested in chunking or bottom fishing, then that would be a very good way to go. Of course I am a spinning junkie.

    As far as abrasion goes, how about a 25 foot to 25 yard topshot (depending on the height of the platform above the water) of really heavy mono (like 200 pounds) so that when he gets the fish up near the rig structure, he would have the braid on the reel?

    Again, Ohms, don't take my suggestion without realizing it comes from someone who is a complete expert---except for never having caught a tuna. :)

    Best of luck and I wish I were on that rig and you were sitting in an office in front of a miserable desktop.

    Russ
     
  5. Snagged

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    Spectra is easier to cut under load than mono.
    I'm interested in seeing what the experts have to say.
    You've got several problems;
    The death circle will likely put you fish into the rig structure.
    Getting the fish out. That can be done with a bridge gaff (large sharp graffle hook on a rope).
     
  6. Minnow

    Minnow Administrator

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    Welcome to 360tuna.

    Some one correct me if I am wrong.

    Braided line is not as abrasion resistant as monofilament. Can some one confirm that?

    For near stucture fishing, monofilament might be your best bet.
    Spool your reel with 100lb braided line and 50 yards or so of 100lb monofilament and 3-4ft of 200lb leader for casting big popper or rubber flying fish.

    If you are looking for 7ft rod, I will recommend Calstar 700H or 700Xh. you will need all the backbone you can get from the rod to get the tuna off the structure.

    lure of choice will be poppers, rubber flying fish, jig, and medium size Marauder type lure. Just my opinion.

    good luck and please let us know how it goes.
     
  7. ohms

    ohms Junior member

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    Thanks for the comments, but
    Braided line is useless in this situation tried it on my Penn 850 and the abrasion quality is non exsistant. As far as putting on mono and backing it with braided, the fish are talking way too much line for that, and I would be back to having braided in contact with the rig. 'Turn up the drag' I hear you say, I have it on the limit already to stop them taking too much line but I have already broken 80lb mono a few times. The local fishing boats are using 250lb mono for these fish, granted they are not sport fishing and are not interested in playing the fish just landing it and selling it.

    With regard to getting the fish onboard 'Snagged' was right we have a tried and tested gaff on a rope with a clip on it to clip to your line and lower it down to gaff the fish.

    In short I need a reel and rod that can handle all heavy mono line but still be able to cast baits (whole fish) and lures. Thats why I though about Toruim 50. What do you all think?

    Ohms
     
  8. Argo

    Argo Senior Member

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    torium 50 or an Avet pro 30 w/ 30-50 lbs of drag, if you are daring enough to cast a 50 narrow you could get an Avet T-Rex 50, gives you more than 100 lbs of drag.
     
  9. Bret

    Bret Senior Member

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    torium 50 or an Avet pro 30 w/ 30-50 lbs of drag, if you are daring enough to cast a 50 narrow you could get an Avet T-Rex 50, gives you more than 100 lbs of drag.
    Ohms, Welcome to 360 Tuna!

    I agree with the above posts... an Avet 30 should give you enough drag.. and 100-130 spectra with a top shot of 100 mono and 200flouro leader.. a good heavy or xheavy rod.. and get to work!!
     
  10. Snagged

    Snagged Senior Member

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    ohms,
    Unless they had seriously improved the anti-reverse on the 50 I doubt it will last.
    Spend the extra money on an Avet or possibly a Boss.
     
  11. SkeeterRonnie

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    sweeeeet... I love me some AVET!!!! thats a good idea on the gaff clipped to the line.... is there anyway you could take some photos of these tuna off your rig and post them?? that would be way cool!
     
  12. xs_tackle

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    2 questions: How high above the water will you be when you fish? The higher you go, the more irrelevant your casting will be and the more impt it will be for you to look into ways to drift your bait (w/kite or either aerial or water top balloons powered by wind or current) into the action. Will you have a pneumatic lift and basket to bring your catch up to you?

    If you can fish w/o needing to cast, then you may be able to use heavier lines (both spectra and mono). This is important b/c it will determine what type and size of reel makes most sense and will also influence your choice of rod.
     
  13. ohms

    ohms Junior member

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    Hey guys thanks for all the help here, much appreciated
    Looks like the general consensus it the Avet, which going by reviews etc seems to be a popular choice.

    Skeeter,
    I will get some pics for you no prob. just a pitty I didnt get one yesterday as the local fishermen caught a Tuna that took four of them to get it in their boat! About 5' long no idea how heavy that would be!

    XS Tackle
    Yeah we have an air tugger/winch on the aft end that could be used in the event of a monster being caught. Used this to haul in 9' Bull Shark before. We are about 20-30' above the water when ballasted down. Casting works quite well especially dancing lures across the surface make the Tuna go crazy. Kite and balloons are a no-go as the chopper pilots would get a bit up tight seeing these in the air when landing. Drifting would be ok but depending on the currents as sometimes it would end up under the rig.

    I have noticed quite alot of Dolphin fish around lately close to the surface in the mornings. Would the same lures etc for Tuna work on these as well?

    One last question, I need a rod that I can split in two to smuggle onto the chopper. I have trawled the net looking for one that would be heavy enough for my purposes but all I can find are one piece, except for really expensive Jap ones in Singapore. Any ideas?

    Thanks to all

    Ohms