My wife was on my case because I had invaded her dinning and living area with fishing tackle while preparing for the canceled Big E trip. So, this afternoon and evening I have been cleaning up my mess. I found a couple of factory frenzy flyers in a bag and decided to rig them for casting with a spinner. The factory flyer comes rigged with about 10 feet of 130 pound mono and a nice quality hook tucked into the flyers belly. I removed the 130 mono and replaced it with 400 pound mono and added a stinger hook. I also made the leader only about 5" long coming out of the flyers mouth so I could get good casting distance. I put on a ringed stainless steel longline stinger hook to give it some more weight. I re-used the original hook for the belly tuck. I've pulled the frenzy a few times this summer with pretty good results. I like it best on the outriggers when trolling ballyhoo's on the flat lines and shotgun line. Dolphin seem to like the flyer. Never caught a hoo on it but two sailfish put it in their mouth. I troll about 6 knots when natural bait fishing. When using all artifical lures I like to drag them around 9 knots. The flyer pulls best at 6 knots. Here are some PICS of the re-rigged flyer for casting.