Fred killers and Bottom Feeders

Discussion in 'HUNTING' started by Fishhead56, Jan 29, 2008.

  1. Fishhead56

    Fishhead56 Senior Member

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    I am still interested in continued updates on these and related subjects.

    I don't think I'll ever be able to stuff a 300 WBY into one of my Mark V's

    Without thinking of it as a Fred Killer.:D

    If I was to attempt to post similair experiences they would most likely

    have to be be ficticius. So as truth is better than fiction I'll wait for updates

    by some of the more zestfully expericenced contribuitors.

    Thanks in advance.

    K2
     
  2. lite-liner

    lite-liner troll enforcement Staff Member

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    :confused: :confused: :confused:
    you lost me @ .300 wby
     

  3. SpecialK

    SpecialK Super Moderator

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    My guess was 300lb white boy?
     
  4. Bret

    Bret Senior Member

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    me no kemosabe???????????
     
  5. lite-liner

    lite-liner troll enforcement Staff Member

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    this may be some strange prelude to a Gunsmoke story.......

    good translation, Kurtis, maybe he means he was trying to put
    his 300lb white friend, Fred, in his Lincoln markV without killing him:rolleyes:
    -B
     
  6. TOO

    TOO Senior member

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    Reference to earlier waterproof camera story
     
  7. lite-liner

    lite-liner troll enforcement Staff Member

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    Ahh, yes. good old Fred. I remember now.....
     
  8. Bret

    Bret Senior Member

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    Dang Willie.. you got some good memory.. Poor old Fred...... How soon we forget... RIP Fred.....
     
  9. Snagged

    Snagged Senior Member

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    Darn it I'm the old guy and you guys can't remember things?
     
  10. Fishhead56

    Fishhead56 Senior Member

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    300 pound what??????

    I was trying to be vauge and suggestive but I guess not all fishermen also know their rifles.

    Oh-well thats ok I just want it known I aint kinky or nuthin.....:eek:

    From Google.



    The .300 Weatherby is based on the full length .300 H&H case, blown out and given the Weatherby double radius shoulder. Heavy bullets do not have to be seated deep into the .300 Weatherby Magnum case as they do with the short magnum cartridges, or even the standard length .300 Win. Mag. The flip side of this is that a long magnum length rifle action is required for the .300 Weatherby.

    The 2004 Weatherby catalog lists factory loads for several bullet weights, including 150 grain Hornady Interlock and Nosler Partition bullets at a claimed MV of 3540 fps. Weatherby offers 165 grain Hornady Interlock and Nosler Ballistic Tip bullets at a MV's of 3390 fps and 3350 fps respectively. Unlike the lesser .300 Magnums, the .300 Wby. is a true ultra-long range caliber when used with bullets of 150-165 grains.
     

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  11. Snagged

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    The 300 is a great cartridge for hunting the world over.
    The old 375 Weatherby was an improvement over the H&H and nt as nasty as the 378.
     
  12. MrBill

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    I didn't know you guys were into guns. I used to shoot a .300 Wby mag but it was doing to much damage. On the South Texas whitetails it was ruining 60% of the meat if I did a shoulder shot. I did enjoy shooting does in between the eyes. There was nothing left of the head.:eek: I switched to a .257 Wby mag which I had custom made for me.

    Snagged, I also have a custom made .378 wby mag and that thing kicks like a mule. It will shoot up to a 300 grain slug. With an AP round, it will go through engine blocks without a problem. I actually still use this gun.:)

    Since this subject of the .300 Wby mag came up, it made me look for a custom gun I had made about 20 years ago. There was this one buck that I was after and I could never get closer than 400 yards to it. So, I had a gun made to kill that sucker. It's a necked down .300 wby mag. The caliber is a
    6.5 x .300 Wby Mag. The caliber was designed for shooting silhouette targets at 1000 yards. I just wanted a accurate gun for a 400 to 500 yard shot.

    The 165 grain nosler travels at 4000 feet per second. I put a Leupold Vari-III
    6.5 x 20 scope on it. The barrel is 30" long and 1 1/4" in diameter and mounted to a Sako action. The stock is a AAA fancy grade crotch walnut with a finger hole. The gun weights around 27 pounds. Here's a few pics of the 6.5 x .300 Wby gun. The cartridge is next to a .257 Wby mag in the picture.

    I'm not into guns like I used to be. In fact, this gun in the pictures hasn't seen daylight in 19 years until I pulled it out this evening. I had to neck down the .300 brass to 6.5mm. I loaded around 200 rounds at the time. I only shot the gun about 20 times. It is very deadly with a sand bag rest. I could hit a doe in the head at 300 yards without a problem. Oh, I never saw the buck I made this gun for again. There are some people or at least one on this board that is a pure gun nut. If he doesn't have it, he has shot it. I have enough problems collecting tackle.:D
     

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  13. Bret

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    My God!! That is a work of art.. very nice weapon.. I just wouldnt want to lug it around too much... Beautiful!!!! The table its laying isnt to shabby either..
     
  14. Snagged

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    MrBill,
    That is Beautiful! You do need to clean that checkering with a toothbrush! LOL. Please post a closeup of the checkering.
    For a 5 to 600 yard shot there are a lot of rounds that would work real well. In my day the 7.62 NATO worked very well out to 1000 meters. My longest confirmed kill with it was 750 meters.

    I really don't like the 378 and it's big brother the 460 is worse!
    If I remember the 257 had a serious barrel erosion problem, some loosing accuracy within 300 rounds.
     
  15. fishr1989

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    VERY nice rifle. hell of a long range killer. did you ever shoot it offhand or only from a rest because of the weight and the kick as well as the distance the shots were being taken from?
     
  16. MrBill

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    MrBill,
    Please post a closeup of the checkering.
    If I remember the 257 had a serious barrel erosion problem, some loosing accuracy within 300 rounds.

    You mean you want to spend twenty minutes digging it out again just for a picture of the checkering.:D

    I do it soon. My 257 Wby is another custom made but it has a mesquite stock and a Zeiss scope. My .378 also has a mesquite stock. I have fired many rounds through that .257 barrel and it's still very accurate. Maybe the Weatherby's made in Japan have the barrel erosion.

    I used to own factory made Weatherby's made in Germany. When they switched from making them in Germany to Japan the German made ones shot way up in price. Just like the Belgium made Browning's. I love those Belgium made O/U's. I had about a 10 of them the early 80's I bought from a collector that was in legal trouble. I sold them for a nice profit a couple of years later.
    In fact, I made a 50% down payment on my first house with the sale of those guns.


    I sold all my German Weatherby's for twice what I paid for them. I then had custom made ones with sako actions and Douglas premium barrels. I haven't bought a gun in a long time. I think the last one I bought was a desert eagle 44 mag years ago.

    I take that back. I have bought some, but sold them quickly for a profit. Remember, I am a "Bottom Feeder".:D I was quietly watching Txseadog's sustain 8000 for the last week. I thought he was going to lower his price after a week. I see he had the patients to wait and get his asking price which was a bargain. Us Bottom Feeders are always on the prowl.:D I even made a purchase from Minnow today for some goodies because of his sale. :)
     
  17. Snagged

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    Yes, I do! Please post pictures of them.
     
  18. Fishhead56

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    I've done a little Bottom Feeding to aquire my 3 Mark V Weatherbys.

    1st one 1982, just married, new house ect,
    an older icehouse buddy (mentor) had a house broken into and guns stolen
    from the Humble area. His brother ran a body shop where he had taken in a
    700 BDL 270 and a German 300 wby mark V for $400 of repair work owed to him some 10 years prior, Well my mentor took the 270 and offered the 300 to me for $250. I countered with $215 and a gallon of Jack Daniels. And I was off and running as a proud Weatheryby owner.
    2nd In 87 I saw 1984 Oylimpic edition 300 Mark V in a pawn shop east of Houston. for $900. It sat there for 2 years. Until one day I had completed an upgrade on some high power elect switchgear and had a pickup truck full of old solid copper buss bar. After a stop at a east Houston scrap metal yard I got this rifle for 6 bills and no out of pocket $$$.
    Now these were both sure fine looking and shooting rifiles but I was always concerned about taking them afield to the West Texas Fort Stockton area for my Mule and Whitetail deer hunts and damaging them.
    So for the 3rd
    In the mid 90's One day afterwork I stopped by a liquior store for a 1\2 gallon of Crown to share with some of my ice house Mentors. I picked up 2 scratch off tickets with the change. And popped a $500 winner.
    Well after celibrating at the ice house and giving my wife $50 (because I love her):rolleyes:
    I had $407 the next day to head to Carters Country. Where they had one 300wby Mark V Weather Mark on sale for something like $578. A month or so later I was at the Pasadena gun show and found a Leupold 50 mm 3.5 x10 matte finish scope on a table wich I offered and got for $200.
    This Mark V with it's Synthetic stock wound up being the best shooter of the 3.
    On a side note in 89 I found eight boxes of factory 110 grain ammo in a Gun shop in South Miami Fla these boxes were older and no longer in production. I checked some older factory data and read where the rounds were rated to fly at 4100 fps. I got all eight for $20 a box instead of the $25 to $29 price back then. These rounds would hit slightly higher @ 200yds than @ 100 or in other words. Still climbing. I never shot these rounds on paper past 200 yards but never adjusted point of sight up to 350 yards. Coyotes sure look small that far away.

    Somehwere around 99 or 2000 I found a web site called Auction Arms.com.
    What a neat place.
    This was about the same time I was thinking about putting a muzzle break on #3 Mark V but didn't want to have the original barrell modified. I found a new light weight factory barrel on auction and bid 35$ and won. Had my gunsmith
    mount a KDF brake and the barrel.
    Since the modifacation the rifle groups about 1" at 100yds instead of 3/4" and I have futher damaged my hearing from the muzzle blast of this 300 cannon. :eek:

    So now in the new meliniuem I pick up my 150 grain balistic tip custom loaded ammo from T'S ammo in Texas city for $18 a box and don't worry about what Wheatherby rifles are on sale.:cool: