Flying Fish Popping Slider - Take 2

Discussion in 'Lure Building' started by flyguy, Oct 23, 2016.

  1. flyguy

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    I mostly fish out of Wilmington, NC and topwater blackfin in fall is one of my favorite times of year. Heading out on Saturday with Capt Mike Jackson and hoping to find them chasing flyers. I have another post on here for a big 4.5oz 7 inch version I made when I owned an OTI Ocean Extreme 40/60. I've sold that rod and went with a lighter Major Craft Giant Killing 74 Buri and that other lure is way too big. I learned from my original that the tail was too fat and I missed strikes so not only is this version smaller for the new rod at 2.5oz and 6 inches, I've narrowed the tail-end so hopefully I'm not missing as many fish. It has a nice walk-the-dog/skitter/splashing action that will hopefully fool some blackfin into thinking it's an injured flyer. We'll see on Saturday!


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  2. Fightingfish

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    Sharp looking! Give it a Japanese name and charge people 80 bucks for it!
     
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  3. Kim

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    That's a sharp looking lure and swimming the way it does should get you some hook ups.
     
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  4. DenisB

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    Very nice work
     
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  5. Oberyn Martell

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    Nice lure . How do you like that Majorcraft KG .
    Recently bought one to use it as stickbait rod.
     
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  6. flyguy

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    Unfortunately the hurricane last month blew out the tuna. I didn't have the opportunity to use the rod or the lure.
     
  7. flyguy

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    Finally got a chance to try out the lure. This guy tried to inhale it!

    I need to mess with the weighting a little bit. It sits perfect in the water, but flutters like a knuckle ball when I cast it. Didn't get much distance at all. To be continued....

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  8. Kim

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    FG I have a lot of lures that cast like a tumbling stick and all that tumble like that aren't distance casting baits. That being aid most of them do catch fish so ...... I live with it. if I was a lure builder like you I would experiment and see what I could do. Keep us posted on your progress. No doubt that the lure drew a predatory strike!

    How do you like the quick clips?
     
  9. flyguy

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    It was my first time using quick clips and they worked great. I switched between my popper and a halco max quite often and the clips made it fast and easy.
     
  10. rrocco

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    Beautiful plug and a proven killer! Do you have any weight in the tail? Love using the quick clips as well.
     
  11. flyguy

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    I put the weight between the belly hook and rear hook. My priority is to have it sit almost level on the surface. The technique we use for blackfin is to cast out and let it sit. Idea being that when it lands it's an injured/stunned flyer. Most of the hits come while it's dead in the water vs. on the retrieve. With the weight where it is, the lure sits perfect on the water with it's head just a little above the tail so on the retrieve I can make a little commotion and/or walk the dog and then let it sit again. I'll experiment with adding a little more weight towards the tail but priority will always be to have it as level as possible on the surface to present a silhouette to the tuna below.
     
  12. rrocco

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    Sounds like you have the action down. Wouldn't sacrifice the action for distance in this case. Some lure manufactures have figured out to have both by having a chamber in the lure where the weight slides to the tail during the cast and moves back to the belly once in the water.
     
  13. flyguy

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    Yup, that's the best way to weight a lure like this but I haven't attempted something that advanced yet. My hope is to have time to build one with internal shifting weight before the blackfin run this fall.
     
  14. flyguy

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    So it's been a year and I finally got around to messing with lures again. I carved out a space in the tail area of the flying fish lure and added some lead. It looks big but it's just a bullet sinker for freshwater worm fishing that I flattened. It's not a lot of weight and still sits nice in the water, but I'm hoping it's enough weight in the tail to keep it from tumbling through the air when I cast it.

    The second lure in the pics is just a popper I quickly carved for a trip I have planned this coming weekend. I weighted it so that it only has weight in the tail which is a 3/4oz egg sinker. This was a quick carve and a hack job just to have more lures in the box. Even with the weight all the way back the lure still sits level on the water.

    Time being a factor I quickly painted the modifications I made to the flying fish lure and slapped on a blue over white paint job on the new popper and gave each one coat of envirotex. One or two more coats and I'll be ready for the weekend. Fingers crossed for good weather and cooperative blackfin!

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  15. DenisB

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    If you want the sliding weight deal you need :-
    -ferrous iron ball bearing ball. chromed or ferrous stainless steel ( ie able to be attracted by magnet) forget plain steel balls that rust & bugger up the smooth rolling down the tube with rust lumps..
    - small round flatsided niobium magnet ( high magnetic flux).
    - acrylic or polycarbonate tube just a little bigger ID than the ball bearing. other plastics will work , but acrylic or poly carbonate are more rigid.
    - install tube with the magnet at the front, at the centre of the lure where the ballast weight gives best action...........tube to rearwards as far as it will reach. close off rear end of tube with glue/ resin with ball inside before installation.
    momentum of casting action breaks magnetic attachment & ball rolls to rear to provide rearbias in lure weight for more efficient casting.
    You can use more than one ball.
    The ball(s) will roll forwards to be held by the magnet at splashdown if the lure is pulled head down by the retrieve ( lure shape or bib etc ). A horizontal balanced lure or rearweighted lure will typically cause the ball(s) to roll up to the magnet after a retrieve jerk on the lure ( water resistance after the jerk causing the lure to quickly slow to stop & the ball retaining momentum from the jerk to roll forwards close enough to the niobium magnet to attract the ball to the magnet.
    You want the strongest magnet that will fit the ball tube & lure.......but not strong enough to hold the ball even when you cast.

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  16. flyguy

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    Thanks DenisB. I plan on trying that over winter.