Fisherman's dilemma

Discussion in 'Jigging and Popping' started by ksong, Jun 18, 2009.

  1. ksong

    ksong SPONSOR

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    Willy's new fishing adventure began yesterday: Tuna Popping.
    But he encountered unexpected problem which he never experienced in his entire fishing life.

    To fight or not to fight.

    This problem is not just for Willy, but a commonn problem to most fishermen who touch rods in Cape Cod recently. :)

    He started with his ever smiling face, but his face started to change as battles went on. He didn't smile at all once battles passed 15 minutes mark. His smile came back when we put the tuna on his lap. :)

    I know it is just beginning of your adventure for tuna fishing and you know now why I am so additictd to tuna fishing. :)
    Nice fishing with you, Willy.

    -Willy started fighting with casual mood.
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    -then, something started to bother him.
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    - I can't smile anymore.
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    http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/ksong/tunacapecod06-17-09047.jpg

    -It is ridiculous. Why should I torture myself. anyone wants to rescue me ?
    http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/ksong/tunacapecod06-17-09056.jpg

    Ryan came to rescue him, but he realized it is not a joke to fight this animal.
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    http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/ksong/tunacapecod06-17-09070.jpg

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    Finally tuna came up to surface to rescue fishermen. :)
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    Willy finally could smile again
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  2. lordhell

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    Very nice tuna! Those big tunas are no joke!
     

  3. kidflex

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    never pass the rod off!
     
  4. ksong

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    Kil was it caught on popper , stickbait or slugo ? That tuna swallowed the whole bait whatever it was

    I don't it is because of slow economy or not. For some reason they don't like expensive lures. :) On the previous Don's trip, all four tuna took cheap sluggo.
    On my trip yesterday, we had two tuna and both took cheap mackerel patterned Yozuri Crystal Magnum DD.

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  5. gimmedeal

    gimmedeal Senior Member

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    never pass the rod off!

    Never, ever.
     
  6. ksong

    ksong SPONSOR

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    Never, ever.
    but, you never know.
    I am pretty diehard fisherman and I usually fight all the day unless I want other fishermen to give opportunity to fight, but I had to pass my rod to Ryan yesterday as I had muscle crimp on my left shouler. Pain was so severe, I hardly breathe.

    Fighting big bluefin is not like catching grouper or AJ. We had a fisheman yesterday, and Dom and myself concerned about his health as he swet so hard and had a hardtime to breathe after the fight.
     
  7. A.whitman

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    looks like the yozuri handled the fight fine. i have a few magnums i plan on using in the gulf. i feel better after seeing that. of course i changed the hooks and terminal tackle.
     
  8. Fishhead56

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    Great catch,

    What is the difference this season from last season?

    This is only a technical question. Last season the bite went dry
    after the early schools showed up . Just asking, to understand, bait ,temp releated ect..

    Thanks
    Kev
     
  9. Eric the Red

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    I was in Willy's shoes last year on my first. But it hurts so GOOD!! I can't wait to get out there soon, thanks for sharing.
     
  10. gimmedeal

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    Kil, I'll revise my never ever a little. It's entirely okay to hand one off after you've set the hook so that you can watch a youngster or new guy play the game. Never, ever is for a good fish or a personal best (hence the term personal). In that case it's an ass kickin contest. This is the fish's chance to do to me what I'm determined to do to him. One of us is gonna die.

    Fred
     
  11. rtran

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    somebodys gonna die!!
     
  12. Albiemanmike

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    Kil, I'll revise my never ever a little. It's entirely okay to hand one off after you've set the hook so that you can watch a youngster or new guy play the game. Never, ever is for a good fish or a personal best (hence the term personal). In that case it's an ass kickin contest. This is the fish's chance to do to me what I'm determined to do to him. One of us is gonna die.

    Fred

    Guy's,
    Why is so crucial for soemone to not hand the rod off if they are spent??? Is this some kind of macho testosterone thing or something else. I don't see anything wrong with asking another angler to take over the fight if you cannot finish it. I had a fish kick my ass last year on a standup conventional Okuma Cedros jigging rod that went 130 lbs. and no belt or harness. I fought this fish hard for 30 min. and no longer could keep my grip on the rod, my fingers were locking up and my arms could not longer keep the rod up. I needed a break to let the blood get back into my arms and hands. So my buddy took the rod for 10 min. I then took the rod back and finished the deal in about 3 min. I just don't see why it is such a big deal it didn't hurt my pride any and we landed the fish and released it successfully.

    This year I am rigged up much heavier and I don't have any worries as i think we were a little undergunned last year. But again if it comes to it I will have another angler take the rod and hopefully keep the fight to a minimum.
     
  13. gimmedeal

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    It's something else or maybe it's a macho testosterone thing. Or maybe it's neither. I just know the fish isn't all mine if I tag team him. Why don't 4 of us fight him? Also if I'm trying to improve my game I've gotta know how to fight effectively and efficiently. I may not learn that if I can hand my rod off as soon as I tire.
    The Old Man and the Sea, me against the fish. If it didn't provide a challenge it'd just be fish harvesting.

    Fred
     
  14. d-a

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    The fish didn't get to hand off the hook to another fish for a break, why should you? If I can't get it in on my own then I would just as well as cut the line and concede defeat.

    Only acceptable time is with kids or new anglers

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  15. gimmedeal

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    I knew I wasn't alone.

    Fred
     
  16. SpecialK

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    I'll third that. Unless it's a big shark. There is no pride in shark for me.
     
  17. pametfisher

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    Kil, You always raise good questions. And for this one, the pictures tell the story. There's no dilemma, just discipline.

    There is an easy rule of thumb to follow for saving your own energy: if the fish is pulling line off against the drag, don't fight at all. The drag is doing 99.9% of the work (see Heat!). Fighting adds work for you and tires you out but does not affect the fish.

    Once the fish cannot take line, use all your energy. If you've set the drag to 20 lbs. with a long-ish rod, you will probably have to pull a 50 lb. load (or more depending on the rod) held 2 to 2 1/2 feet from your body. That is a lot of work.

    So let the disk brakes stop the car, and once the brakes are "locked" don't bother stepping on the brake pedal harder and squeezing the steering wheel.
     
  18. BretABaker

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    So let the disk brakes stop the car, and once the brakes are "locked" don't bother stepping on the brake pedal harder and squeezing the steering wheel.

    this reminded me of when someone once asked if i thought people still pushed the brake pedal after they drove off a cliff.
     
  19. peterk814

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    I think adrenaline has a lot to do with it, some people get super excited, adrenaline starts rushing and when it runs out you become drained. you have superpowers for about 10 minutes until it runs out then the lactic acid builds up in the muscles, and youre useless
     
  20. bigscrnman

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    It's something else or maybe it's a macho testosterone thing. Or maybe it's neither. I just know the fish isn't all mine if I tag team him. Why don't 4 of us fight him? Also if I'm trying to improve my game I've gotta know how to fight effectively and efficiently. I may not learn that if I can hand my rod off as soon as I tire.
    The Old Man and the Sea, me against the fish. If it didn't provide a challenge it'd just be fish harvesting.

    Fred

    AMEN BROTHER FRED!!! It's not really a "macho" thing, but is more like single combat! I happen to love the one on one aspect of fighting a big fish, it is me v fish and one of us is going to win! If I happen to get my arse kicked by a biggun then it means that I A) need more time in the gym or B) need to improve my skills in managing the fight! Either way I am not passing the rod! I have seen friend of mine get their tails whipped by big tuna, we are talking 3 hour battle that left a man of my own size (for those that have not met me 6'4" 280# ) and in better shape than me, on his knees at the transom begging to just cut the line:eek: I find no shame in getting bested by a large fish, it just leaves me with a strong desire to figure out what I did wrong and not make the same mistakes twice!!!!!!

    Tight lines!
    Dewayne