chunking technique ?

Discussion in 'Pelagics' started by MO1, Oct 23, 2006.

  1. MO1

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    I understand the concept , and have done basically the same thing
    with shrimpboat trash for tarpon. I suspect what works best for
    tarpon may not be best with tuna.
    Do you fish with rod in holder and strip line with 2 hands or hold the rod and strip with one ? complete freespool or clicker on ? Engage drag quickly or slow? Please describe what a strike looks like and exactly what you do next.
    Thanks
    MO
     
  2. CaptEddie

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    I fish with the rod in the holder and strip with two hands. Freespool with the clicker on and engage the drag smoothly and pretty slow. The fish will just rip the line out your hands when he hits. Just let go of the line and moderatly move the lever drag up to strike position and then take the rod out the holder and hold on.
     

  3. Deep_Sea_Gull

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    That's a good description that Capt Eddie gave.

    I can only add that you want your chunk to sink and drift outta sight with all the others. It should be one of the pack....
     
  4. SkeeterRonnie

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    awesome description Eddie. that sounds a lot easier than holding the heavy rod, and stripping at the same time.(only way I knew how to).
     
  5. Pope

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    I hold the reel with it in free spool and let the current take the line. My bait drifts exactly the same speed as the chum. Slowly engage the drag
     
  6. ksong

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    I understand the concept , and have done basically the same thing
    with shrimpboat trash for tarpon. I suspect what works best for
    tarpon may not be best with tuna.
    Do you fish with rod in holder and strip line with 2 hands or hold the rod and strip with one ? complete freespool or clicker on ? Engage drag quickly or slow? Please describe what a strike looks like and exactly what you do next.
    Thanks
    MO
    We do the same thing when we fish big bluefin tuna behind scallop draggers. If you are not experienced tuna fisherman, I don't recommend complete freespool because you can get bird nest on your reel if you don't act in time. Give enough slack line in the water and just move the lever drag to strike smoothly (some people like to move drag to 1/2 or 3/4 of strike initially) when tuna takes your line. Before you take rod out of holder crank as fast as possible. When you feel tuna are secured, then you take rod out of holder and fight.

    When you hold your rod while chunking, you feed your line with your one hand. Give enough slack line so that your bait doesn't drag. I prefer complete free spool instead of crickers on when I hold my rod. I put my thumb slightly over the spool to prevent from backlashing when tuna takes line. When tuna takes bait, I usaully decide when to move the lever to the stirike based on the speed tuna takes. It can be two or three seconds or it can be 5 or 6 seconds. In this process you just put your thumb slightly over the spool so that tuna doesn't feel any registance while preventing from bird nesting. I saw even experienced fishermen lose too many fish by giving too much time with clickers on.
    Whether you use J hook or circle hook, don't try to set the hook. As tuna run, they usually hook themselves and crank as fast as you can when rod tip goes down. Once you are secured, then put your rod on your fighting belt and fight.
     
  7. Uncle Russ

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    What is the best terminal rig for chunking? I assume a windon leader, either short or up to 25 feet? Flourocarbon best? Do you tie the hook directly to the leader or crimp it on? How about a BB swivel, or does that impede the presentation with the chum?

    Russ
     
  8. ksong

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    What is the best terminal rig for chunking? I assume a windon leader, either short or up to 25 feet? Flourocarbon best? Do you tie the hook directly to the leader or crimp it on? How about a BB swivel, or does that impede the presentation with the chum?

    Russ
    General tendency is to use shorter windon leader line, but I don't think the length of leader line is important as long as you have enough line capacity.

    Some people believe the effectiveness of fluorocarbon and some people don't. I have many occasions that tuna sometimes are very line shy though they bite on 200 lbs leader line. It never hurt to use fluorocarbon leader lines.

    The rule of thumb is you can tie directly to the leader upto 100 lbs and crimp it on over 100 lbs, but you can tie upto 200 lbs if you have confidence in your knot.

    Using barrel swivel is another good method to connect main braided line and mono leader line, but the problem is you can not use long leader line.
    When using barrel swivel, be careful the swivel doesn't go into the guides.
    It can damage your guides. I experienced three guides were damaged when tuna charged when I used a small swivel.
     
  9. Deep_Sea_Gull

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    What is the best terminal rig for chunking? I assume a windon leader, either short or up to 25 feet? Flourocarbon best? Do you tie the hook directly to the leader or crimp it on? How about a BB swivel, or does that impede the presentation with the chum?

    Russ

    I often use a Penn 30 loaded with Jerry Brown HC 130 for chunking. I have a loop pulled into the bitter end of my spectra. I tie a f' carbon windon on with a loop to loop. I straight tie my hook onto the f' carbon. I like San Diego knots. Doubled if ya can do it in the lighter lines. I hide the hook in a pocket cut into the chunk. Just stick it in; don't bait the hook. I use a short windon. 25 ft or less. I feel that I get a natural presentation this way. Very few knots. Just give a sharp tug and your hook is free from the chunk and you are winding it back in.
    I adjust my f'carbon size down to get a bite. I try to use as big as I can.
     
  10. Pope

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    Thanks for the elaboration ksong. That is my method and I should have warned of impending bird's nests.
     
  11. Dr Jeff

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    I experienced the agony of birdnest 2 months ago! I was letting 30# line out (Stripping)w/ a big ribbonfish under a baloon, when a Hoo or King grabbed it & headed to Cuba so fast it backlashed before I could throw the lever on my little Avet. then Ziiiig-Pow!!!Bye-Bye.I hope yft don't take off like that.

    Btw:K,do you recommend I change the drag washers in my Avet MX while I'm at it?
     
  12. Bazztex

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    Dr Jeff

    It's best to use a reel with a clicker to prevent back lashes when chunking. That way when a fish hits the spool wont over speed.

    Yellow fin can swim up to 60 Mph and cruise around all day at 30 Mph.. so yep they can cause a spectacular backlash when they strike taking line off a free spooled reel.

    I have had a few large YFT take 450yds of line straight down in nothing flat on a topwater strike. The larger thay are the harder they fight with any fish but a large YFT is like stoping a freight train.

    The Avet MX may be a little light YFT over 50# . You need about 20# of drag and about 400yds 65# braid for YFT the Avet LX 6/3 two speed is a good choice and it already has great drag washers. It will handle a large Tuna and most bottom fish. If you plan on also using your Chunking reel for bottom fishing then the Avet pro 30 or Shimano TI30A Tiagra is a good choice.

    Avet is reportedly coming out with a narrowed version of their 4/0 that will be a good YFT reel for jigging and chunking.

    Bazz