Casting TLD 25,

Discussion in 'Tackle and Rigging' started by TeamOso, Dec 5, 2006.

  1. TeamOso

    TeamOso Senior Member

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    As the time comes closer (24 days), I am finally needing to decide whether I am gonna try to cast or not. I was thinking of getting 65 or 80 JB on it with proly a 80# topshot, maybe 60. But fluorocarbon. Is it possible to cast? If so is it worth it? From what ive heard are frenzy flyers and tuna hunters.


    Just a thoguht??????



    Kevin


    Ps- Im so confused bout topshots, can one of you veterans please tell me what topshot I shoud use for bottom, and what I should use for tuna. Also what #, how long, and what type of connection?????


    PLEASE:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
     
  2. Ragman

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    Kevin- You need to get a 3-ring binder, a pack of those colored subject tabs and dedicate one section each to topwater, chunk, jigging, bottom fishing.

    I think you're suffering from info overload! LOL

    Search here and 2Cool (go to your profile and select ALL of your posts) and print each of the threads you started and file them under the respective tab in your notebook.

    You've asked for and rec'd all the info you need, but you just don't have it organized to make sense of and apply it.

    I've seen 2 people cast the TLD 25 relatively well, DH on the Big E and Cat O' Lies, but only because they didn't have anything else.

    If you're going to cast it, dedicate 3 or 4 days each week before your trip, go find a big pond or just an open field, put a 3 or 4 oz sinker on your rig and PRACTICE to see if you can do it.

    Have fun grasshopper! LOL
     

  3. SkeeterRonnie

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    you might not be able to cast that reel. You CAN however, put a frenzy flier on and drift it out the down current side.... just let it drift out to the edge of the lights, and engage the reel to slightly under strike. (17#), once the fish hits, let it run for a minute then push up to strike and set the hook about 3 good times. Better learn how to put the stinger hook on the frenzy... or else get the trebles, and ask TONY to show you.
     
  4. TeamOso

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    Kevin- You need to get a 3-ring binder, a pack of those colored subject tabs and dedicate one section each to topwater, chunk, jigging, bottom fishing.

    I think you're suffering from info overload! LOL

    Search here and 2Cool (go to your profile and select ALL of your posts) and print each of the threads you started and file them under the respective tab in your notebook.

    You've asked for and rec'd all the info you need, but you just don't have it organized to make sense of and apply it.

    I've seen 2 people cast the TLD 25 relatively well, DH on the Big E and Cat O' Lies, but only because they didn't have anything else.

    If you're going to cast it, dedicate 3 or 4 days each week before your trip, go find a big pond or just an open field, put a 3 or 4 oz sinker on your rig and PRACTICE to see if you can do it.

    Have fun grasshopper! LOL
    Ragman, thats kinda what I was thinking, I just printed them all out, wish I had the time to organize right now, but I gotta get to my REAL homework for a second. I think Im gonna try the drifting frenzy flyer thing considering I would hate to try to cast, then get a horrible birdsnest.


    Kevin


    Ps- Whats a good color, I wanna order some tonight, and good thing I have the $$$, through my Grandpa, he trusts me with a few bucks to buy for what he calls 'the trip", dont wanna let him down.
     
  5. Ragman

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    The blue and the pink are good, but probably any color will work.

    Good luck and have fun on the trip spending time with your Grandpa!!!
     
  6. DeepBlueGulf

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    I fished besides Cat O' Lies on the Big E and he did indeed cast the TLD 25 very well. He was using an 8ft ugly Stick to boot!

    Best thing to do is to practice casting it to see how it works for you. You have time, so practice now so you can get good at it. Even if you don't get really good, you will be better than if you just walk on the boat and try to cast. Casting and making a horrible birdsnest is better done when you are practicing too, learning how to fix birdsnests is all a part of learning how to cast. Everybody, and I mean EVERYBODY, gets a birdsnests every once in a while. As you get older you'll learn to call them professional overruns!!

    Tom - DBG
     
  7. Gunsmoke

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    The dreaded birdsnest. I keep a propane torch on board for those that get really bad ones. After they waste about ten minutes trying to save every inch of line, I offer to fix it. I take it inside and put the torch to the mono. I carry it out as it starts to burn. The look on their face is priceless as their prize reel is putting out a black smoke stack about 20 feet into the air.

    I also learned a lesson. Place a plate under the reel before starting the mono on fire. It's a b- i- t- c -h to clean melted mono off the deck. It also will burn into the fiberglass if you don't hose it down right away.
     
  8. SkeeterRonnie

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    about every 1 out of 5 casts, I pick out a birdnest...lol.

    dont forget the diamond jigs!!
     
  9. Gunsmoke

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    Hey there SkeeterRonnie,

    I found another groom to invite hunting this weekend. He's getting married on Saturday. I've never met him but he was really fired up to get away from all the wedding BS with the future in-laws. I found him through a priest that I take fishing once a year. I figure that if I take a priest fishing that means I don't have to go the church on Sundays for a year. The priest doesn't agree with my thinking, but he still comes every year for his fishing fix.

    This poor guy has no idea what is in store for him. I'm picking him up Wednesday after work. He wants to be back in town by Noon on Friday to get ready for the rehearsal dinner. I hope he has a sense of humor. He just might not make it to the rehersal if he's a drag. It's going to be a lot of fun. You should have committed.
     
  10. Snagged

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    Gunsmoke,
    Please take pictures this time :D
     
  11. TeamOso

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    2 blues and a pink on my way to my casa. Thanks guys.
     
  12. SkeeterRonnie

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    Gunsmoke... you scare me... I think if I didnt have a schedule to keep I would have joined you "hunting".... but you never entailed what we would be "hunting"...... LOL!!! A few years ago I wold have enjoyed hunting "Candy"...lol. SHe would make a good mount!!! LOL!! DOnt know whether she would look better on the wall, or on the table......

    Please do post pictures, or at least a link to them.. hehe.

    PS>> another note to self- do not let Gunsmoke help in fixin "birdsnest"...lol.


    TEAM OSO- sounds like you have a plan of attack. Good job. Make sure you get some heavy duty treble hooks to put stingers on those fliers. If you bought the fliers pre-rigged.-they will come with a LONG leader. That gets cut down, and save the cutoff part for making the stinger hook. You will probably need some appropriate size crimps- then take it all to TONY and let him show you how to do it on the way out.(if hes not sleeping)
     
  13. xs_tackle

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    A . . . But fluorocarbon. Is it possible to cast? If so is it worth it? . . .

    If you're talking about loading a reel w/a topshot of FlC, is it possible to cast FlC? Maybe--depends on diameter of FlC, temperature, how long it has been stored on the reel, wt to be cast, and how long a cast you need to make. My experience is that quality mono line of a given diameter is more limp than FlC of the same diameter. Even in warm weather, heavy SeaGuar FlC wound on even a large reel for a day will set up in corkscrew coils which do not cast well except with a large weight--it's even hard to hand feed thru the rollers/guides.

    Is FlC worth it? That's a long-debated point with ardent advocates on at least 2 sides. Some thoughts: For trolling, throwing YoZuri surface Bulls or Yummees, dropping baits for AJ's Grouper? I doubt it. OTOH, if you have some and want to try it or if the bite's slow/picky, then why not try it? Use short lengths (3-7') attached to the end of your topshot or tie on a fresh, longer piece and use it until it gets hard to handle b/c it's kinky from being on your reel spool.
     
  14. Uncle Russ

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    Kevin,

    This is not going to help you for your December trip, and I wish I had thought of it sooner. And, in fact, it may not help at all, for offshore, considering the size of the reel, however, here is the deal:

    I have read quite a bit about the Penn 9500 being OK (just OK mind you) for offshore provided it has been tweaked with new drag washers and I think, anti reverse dogs. I do not have one of these, but I do have an older 8500 that looks pretty scratched on the outside and the gears make a little noise, but it seems to be sound. I would be happy to pass that on to you as a gift, if someone else on the board would volunteer to tweak it for you. I could send the reel to them, they could oil it up and put in the new washers--not sure what else would need to be done, and it is already spooled up with, I think, 65 pound Powerpro--no guarantees on the quality of the line, but it should be OK as I only used the setup for a boat rig in the bays.

    Even if it would be completely inadequate for bigger yellowfin, I think with a stiff rod, you could cast diamond jigs for blackfin and pray you don't get hit by a world-record YFT. If nothing else, it would make a great heavy boat or surf reel for you.

    The deal would be no-strings--it's yours to keep or sell, use as a boat anchor, when you get your Stella 20,000, or throw overboard, or whatever.

    Only problem is the darned thing is in my boat shed in Port O'Conner and I won't get down there for a month or two. Soooo, you would have to wait and use it on your next trip.

    So are there any volunteers out there for me to send the reel to to help Kevin get started, and tweak it for him or declare it to be inadequate and send to him as-is? I'm a total Klutz and refuse to work on anything.
    Let me know and I will definitely get the reel as soon as I can and get it to you.

    Kevin, if noone wants to do this, I'll send the reel to you personally as soon as I get it and maybe you can have the work done. I dont' gather it would be too expensive.

    Russ

    Russ