My hunting buddy Bob has been holding out for the past couple of years for a nice mature buck.. Well he went to the stand at 12.15 in the afternoon on Thanksgiving day. he didnt see anything until 5.00 and whacked a fat doe.. he got out and dragged her to the road and went back to the stand. Just before dark a buck walks out.. He grunted,whistled, hollared, etc..(itwas windy)finally got a good look at him and put the ko on him with his .308. I am glad he got the one he was looking for. he's a main frame 8 with a kicker and small drop on the left side.. the main beam was broke on the left side as well... He wont score too well, but hes a great buck for the area we hunt.