4.9 or 5.7 gear ratio?

Discussion in 'Jigging and Popping' started by DEA, Jan 28, 2009.

  1. DEA

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    So I've narrowed down what I want, brand wise, for my first venture into big water popping.

    But the reel is offered in both 4.9 or 5.7, so which ratio would you suggest and why?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Minnow

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    I will go with 5.7 for fast retrieve, 4.9 gear ratio will work just as well but you have to crank faster.

    The question is, how often do you have to crank fast for yft popping?
    YFT will often hit non moving popper. JMO
     

  3. BretABaker

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    i prefer between 4:1 and 5:1 rather than higher, all else being constant. problem is....all else normally isnt constant ;)
     
  4. gman

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    for popping go with the higher ratio, for jigging lower
     
  5. DEA

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    Thanks fellas!

    I think it's easier to crank slower than to crank faster but that's just from my experience with freshwater fishing.

    So far 2 votes for hi speed, and 1 on the fence....but you're right Bret ain't nothing constant.

    Just looking for some balance between power and speed.
     
  6. BretABaker

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    yeah i mean i agree with glenn and tj. but, i have a 10000fa and use it for both jigging and popping. no complaints, have landed big fish with it. if i had to pick between a 20000 and 10000 for jigging i'd pick the lower-geared 20000, but i got the 10000 for a good price so thats what i went with.
     
  7. gman

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    The bigger difference is trying to jig with a higher geared reel. God bless anyone who can jig with a stella 18000 because i cant and I'm in good shape.

    The higher gears were meant to gain as much line as fast as possable to keep your swimbait, stickbait or popper moving
     
  8. Jason4606

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    Like everybody else... I'd definitely go high speedi IF it's a dedicated popping/fly-lining/swim bait reel... difference here is your typically cranking slack line after pop/jerk and you can get it back much quicker with the faster reel.

    If you're going to jig and pop I'd go low gear and just put the slower ratio out of your mind. Nothing worse than not having that extra torque when you're working heavy jigs.
     
  9. DEA

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    I hear ya fellas...nope this is a dedicated popping reel for sure.
     
  10. gman

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    only one choice then .... higher gear
     
  11. DEA

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    Gotcha.....5.7 it is...

    Here comes the tackle monkey...!
     
  12. gman

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    tight lines with it
     
  13. d-a

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    I guess I am always the different one, I like the PG for everything. I Dont mind cranking faster Since I know I will have better power once the fish is caught.

    d-a
     
  14. Ragman

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    Same here d-a...

    DEA - What reel is it?
     
  15. DEA

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    d-a and Ragman, I was thinking that too for a bit.

    But I finally decided on the higher speed on the premise that I would be working the popper more frequently than working on a fish. But when hooked up, I would give up the cranking power due to the higher gear ratio.

    Now does 5" of extra line movement really matter when going the high speed versus gaining some more cranking power at low speed?

    It's a game of inches, right? LOL!

    Ragman, the reel is Saltiga 4500H, starting off small then working up
     
  16. rhale

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    The bigger difference is trying to jig with a higher geared reel. God bless anyone who can jig with a stella 18000 because i cant and I'm in good shape.

    The higher gears were meant to gain as much line as fast as possable to keep your swimbait, stickbait or popper moving



    I always jig with either my Stella 10000 FA or Accurate B2 870 and both have a 6.0:1 gear ratio.... When I have tried to use slower reels for jigging it feels like I am not picking up all the slack from the upstroke. I agree that a slower ratio is much better for fighting fish but I dont feel like I am ripping the jig through the water column fast enough with the slower reels to intice as many strikes.
    Its obvious from seeing all the fish that yall catch that the slower ratio works just fine. Maybe I need to try it again but with shorter strokes so I am able to crank in the slack with each stroke.

    Suggestions ???
     
  17. BretABaker

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    rhale - i too jig with my 10k. its fine.....would i prefer a slower ratio? yes. am i about to go buy a new stella to get it? no.

    even with the higher ratio the stella 10k has good cranking power. for conventionals i really prefer 4-5:1. the ocea 4000p is 4:1 and its awesome and plenty fast IMO. the trinidad and ocea 4000/5000 are 4.9:1 which is the same as the saltiga 40/50. assuming the cranking power is similar between those reels, 4.9:1 is a good ratio as well, the saltiga has great cranking power.