100 lb gom aj's?

Discussion in 'Jigging and Popping' started by kidflex, Oct 9, 2008.

  1. kidflex

    kidflex Senior Member

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    i recently got my 100lb amberjack, jigging in North Carolina, fishing ledges. my new goal is to pull a hundred lber out of the rigs in louisiana and texas. i know for sure there are plenty of big boys hanging out in the legs of those structures. trouble is getting them out before they tear your line up. i plan on using 130-150 lb braid with a long 200 lb mono/flouro topshot. has anyone pulled a century aj from a rig using jigging tackle?

    besides quickly getting the boat away after hookup what do you think could be done to improve the chances of success? i plan on using max drag and pushing the rod to the limit.
     
  2. rtran

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    dont stop reeling lol
     

  3. gman

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    same process and gear you just need on the rig and pull away with about 45 pounds of drag with a short stoudt rod
     
  4. gman

    gman Senior Member

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    we have 75 pounders at a rig
     
  5. SpecialK

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    I caught an 92lb a little over a year ago off a wreck near the baker rocks. I cannot imagine fighting one bigger. We had a few break off before I got that one in. You can't let them get their head down near structure or they might break you off.
     
  6. gman

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    I caught an 92lb a little over a year ago off a wreck near the baker rocks. I cannot imagine fighting one bigger. We had a few break off before I got that one in. You can't let them get their head down near structure or they might break you off.

    Did you see the ones we caught over the weekend in Wilmington? With the right gear it can be accomplished the big one I caught took about 15 minutes

    I sent pictures and dimensions to a amberjack specialist who works for the South Carolina Fisheries Department they are getting us a more accurate weight on the big one based off of commercial landing statistics. 120 wasn't the right average for that fish they said
     
  7. mcgolfer

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    first let me say that gman probably has never battled a aj off a rig. the easiest way to get a big amberjack in the gulf of mexico is to locate them on rocks or ledges and not on rigs. the texas state record 128lbs was taken off rocks and not off a rig with jigging gear by john stout on the possession limit from galveston. to land a big amberjack off a rig with coventional jigging gear requires more luck than any other factor.....rick
     
  8. njnicka

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    We wouldn't be using conventional gear it would be spinning and i'd put money on glenn pulling one from under a rig.....
     
  9. rtran

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    I got broke off so many times fishing rigs. Even with high drag it will be hard to stop a run from a 100# fish from finding there way to something to cut you off.
     
  10. rtran

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    We wouldn't be using conventional gear it would be spinning and i'd put money on glenn pulling one from under a rig.....

    Nick,

    It's really hard to stop a fish running into structures even with high drag. With spinning it's more difficult because all you can do is hold on. With conventional you can reel and reel with high drag to try to stop them from cutting you off. I witnessed a guy on the Big E use a Avet 30 and big rod pull some AJ from the rig. Later I asked him what lines he used and he said 200# and 2-400lb leader. He told me it's the only chance you got along with good drag and don't stop cranking. When I watched him hook one he reeled against the fish running and drag for at least 1 minute straight. It's a pretty tough feat for myself to crank fast against alot of tension.
     
  11. Mitchw123456

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    We wouldn't be using conventional gear it would be spinning and i'd put money on glenn pulling one from under a rig.....

    The only way we've ever been successful pulling AJs out of a rig is by pulling them out of the rig with the boat. WE would use 50Ws with 130# braid with 200# windons. After backing up to the rig we would drop big live baits down and leave the rod in teh holder, first sign of a strike we would nail the throttles and would pull the rod out of the holder until we were 50 or so yards away. Even at that they would break you off. Its going to take tons of luck to pull one out with jigging tackle
     
  12. njnicka

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    Damn that kills all the fun LOL
     
  13. rtran

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    Yea I lost like 6 jigs and buncha line trying to pull them away with spinning gear at 25lb drag.
     
  14. Minnow

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    With luck on your site it can be done, Ask jaredchasteen about double AJ he pulled out.

    Jared were fishing for grouper with double hooked rig, he hooked 2 big live hardtail:D to the hooks and send them down, He ended up with 1 AJ about 75-80lb and blackjack about 40-55lb. He used Shimano kaikon 4000, 65lb spectra and custom Seeker rod.

    years ago I caught an AJ up to 80lb on 50lb Pline mono rig at the falcon rig leg.
    Some time AJ will fight you to death and some time they just swims right up to you. JMO
     
  15. SpecialK

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    With luck on your site it can be done, Ask jaredchasteen about double AJ he pulled out.

    Jared were fishing for grouper with double hooked rig, he hooked 2 big live hardtail:D to the hooks and send them down, He ended up with 1 AJ about 75-80lb and blackjack about 40-55lb. He used Shimano kaikon 4000, 65lb spectra and custom Seeker rod.

    years ago I caught an AJ up to 80lb on 50lb Pline mono rig at the falcon rig leg.
    Some time AJ will fight you to death and some time they just swims right up to you. JMO
    Is a Shimano kaikon the same as a US Torium?

    You make a good point that some will swim towards you. I have done a lot of AJ fishing in the GOM due to the fact that most boats I am on want to bottom fish a lot.

    Its just a roll of the dice. I have found that you can lose a lot of jigs around rigs if there are decent size AJ around. The first run is fast and if they get around a leg it is the last.
     
  16. Minnow

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    It's more like trinidad, the kaikon 3000 is sama size as trinidad 20, kaikon 4000 is same size as trinidad 30
     
  17. MrBill

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    Damn that kills all the fun LOL

    Correct. The rigs are line busters. Rusty steel and barnacles will cut anything. Even 49 strand stainless steel leaders. I've dropped five pound sash weight's with 400lb mono with large live baits on 14/0 circle hooks. Once it hit the bottom, I tie the heavy mono to a boat cleat on the transom. Half of the time, you still cannot bring the AJ to the surface without getting off. I call it "AJ skiing". No rod or reel. Just 400lb leader, sash weights, live bait, and the throttle of the boat.

    Not sporty but sometimes you get so pissed off at getting cut off, that you will try anything.:eek: If you don't get cut off, the AJ will rise to the surface and will "Water Ski" until you pull off the throttle.
     
  18. Bellyups

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    I have seen plenty of large AJs caught in the GOM, up to 101 pounds. However, I don't think I have seen any over 50 pounds caught at the rigs with a jig. They just seem to bend a jigging rod in half as soon as they hit the jig and either swim down or sideways into the rig and it is over. All the big ones have been landed with 130 pound spectra or greater and at least a size 30 2speed. Bait is usually a large live bait or a very large chunk.
     
  19. STx Fisherman

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    Jigging near the rigs is certainly tough. The biggest AJ that I brought to the boat, (the Big E), while jigging was a 39 pounder on an Accurate 870 reel.

    The big ones are definitely at the rigs....I have lost my share of BIG amberjacks jigging at the rigs. I have jigged some that just bend you over....excuse me....bend your rod over :D ... and rip line down until they break off in the structure of the oil rig. They seem to know that they are in control and that the rig legs and braces are their braided line cutters. I have come close to getting big AJ's to the boat near the rigs....and the challenge that it presents keeps me trying.

    When you do happen to hook on to a big AJ while jigging....it is an awesome feeling and you definitely will go back for more. It is my second favorite fishing experience. Catching a yellowfin tuna by casting a popper is # 1 .. no holds barred.
     
  20. kidflex

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    ive lost my share of large aj's to the rigs. thais why i am going to focus on it during the next year. i think luck will have the most to do with it. but im thinking jm500 powerspell, stella maxed out drag with 150 braid, have boat away from rig and let current take jig down so im not fighting through the legs, so when the boat gets put in gear it will be easier to pull the aj from the structure.