OTI popping rod - Page 2

ksong · 02-12-2008, 10:18 PM

Mel, Japanese short 5'5" jigging rods usually have 7 guides.

txseadog · 02-13-2008, 12:02 PM

Like Kil mention, you have to use more guides on conventionally wrapped jigging blanks because of the slow action but you make only need 5 if acid wrapping.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jureal

A 5.5ft rod would take 5 guides ..

BretABaker · 02-13-2008, 12:06 PM

definitely post pics when you get them.

unfortunately, weather looks like it might cancel my using the popping rod this weekend.

jureal · 02-14-2008, 11:48 AM

It will be a while before it gets wrapped. I just wanted to make sure that TJ doesn't run out of the blanks. I do have a couple of short phenix jigging rods built that are 5'8" in lenght. One is a spinner with 5 guides and the other is acid wrapped with 5 guides. Both are on the same blank with almost identical handle lenghts and are rated 400g with 27kg pulling strenght. Rated for line tests 30-60 lbs. In essense, if a rod requires 5 guides for spinning, the same should generally be true for an acid wrapped one. And yes, acid wrapped rods do not need as many guides as one wrapped conventionally. Both of these rods were tested by me using static testing and the guide placements were good using only 5 guides.

ksong · 02-27-2008, 09:20 PM

I brought one 8' custom popping rod and one blank from Korea yesterday.
Tom(Ragman) also wanted the custom rod, but I had to bring a blank instead of completed rod as they didn't have any completed rod.
While the completed custom rod is only $200 with Fuji SIC guides, the blank cost $110.

But the blank already have Fuji reel seats, grip and gimbal from the factory, and only guides are missing.

When I saw the popping rod on the Fiji GT popping trip, I thought the rod was too light and fragile as it looked only for PE4 - PE5, but I was impressed when the rod survived the punishment of 40 - 70 lbs GT while an expensive custom popping rod from Hawaii got broken on the first day.

I was looking for a light-tipped, but strong popping rod to cast small poppers as light as 2 oz as bluefin tuna around Cape Cod, MA as bluefin there sometimes are interested in only small poppers. And I thought the rod can do the job.

The blank looks composite and it is not light. The completed rod weighs 19 1/2 oz, same as OTI's 7'6" 80 lbs rod.

With the addition of this rod along with Smith80P/35 and OTI's 80 lbs popping rod, I can throw any poppers in any kind of situations.

tip parts of OTI popping rod/Smith 80P/35 amd Korean popping rod.

bottom parts of the blanks( they provide completed bottom part when they sell blanks)

STx Fisherman · 02-27-2008, 10:56 PM

Kil,

I am going to build a 5'6" jigging rod with a spiral wrap. How many guides are used on a rod like this with a spiral wrap for jigging?

ksong · 02-27-2008, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STx Fisherman

Kil,

I am going to build a 5'6" jigging rod with a spiral wrap. How many guides are used on a rod like this with a spiral wrap for jigging?

I discussed with my rod builder and he said he was considering 5 or 6.
I let you know the exact number of guides.

Ragman · 02-28-2008, 08:18 AM

Richard- JPR Rods used 8 guides on my 5' 6" OTI blank he wrapped for me. The first 5 guides down from the tip are underneath the blank, then 6 & 7 begin the spiral with the 8th being on top of the blank.

Last night, I got my OTI 7' 6" 2-piece 50# blank that I'll have spiral wrapped. (Mel - 360Tackle does have some blanks! )

But not sure how different the guides set up or the quantity of guides on a longer blank.

ksong · 02-28-2008, 08:42 AM

Tom,
I'll send you the blank.

lite-liner · 02-28-2008, 09:08 AM

Kil- is that a stainless steel ferrule? I like that a lot. I'd bet it seriously adds to the weight if it is, eh?
-Brian

02-27-2008, 09:20 PM	#15 (permalink)
ksong Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,132	I brought one 8' custom popping rod and one blank from Korea yesterday. Tom(Ragman) also wanted the custom rod, but I had to bring a blank instead of completed rod as they didn't have any completed rod. While the completed custom rod is only $200 with Fuji SIC guides, the blank cost $110. But the blank already have Fuji reel seats, grip and gimbal from the factory, and only guides are missing. When I saw the popping rod on the Fiji GT popping trip, I thought the rod was too light and fragile as it looked only for PE4 - PE5, but I was impressed when the rod survived the punishment of 40 - 70 lbs GT while an expensive custom popping rod from Hawaii got broken on the first day. I was looking for a light-tipped, but strong popping rod to cast small poppers as light as 2 oz as bluefin tuna around Cape Cod, MA as bluefin there sometimes are interested in only small poppers. And I thought the rod can do the job. The blank looks composite and it is not light. The completed rod weighs 19 1/2 oz, same as OTI's 7'6" 80 lbs rod. With the addition of this rod along with Smith80P/35 and OTI's 80 lbs popping rod, I can throw any poppers in any kind of situations. tip parts of OTI popping rod/Smith 80P/35 amd Korean popping rod. bottom parts of the blanks( they provide completed bottom part when they sell blanks) Last edited by ksong : 02-27-2008 at 09:27 PM.

02-28-2008, 08:18 AM	#18 (permalink)
Ragman Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 924	Richard- JPR Rods used 8 guides on my 5' 6" OTI blank he wrapped for me. The first 5 guides down from the tip are underneath the blank, then 6 & 7 begin the spiral with the 8th being on top of the blank. Last night, I got my OTI 7' 6" 2-piece 50# blank that I'll have spiral wrapped. (Mel - 360Tackle does have some blanks! ) But not sure how different the guides set up or the quantity of guides on a longer blank. __________________ Tom www.oceantackle.net *Go Hard or Go Home!*

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02-12-2008, 10:18 PM	#11 (permalink)
ksong Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,132	Mel, Japanese short 5'5" jigging rods usually have 7 guides.

02-13-2008, 12:06 PM	#13 (permalink)
BretABaker Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pearland, TX Posts: 983	definitely post pics when you get them. unfortunately, weather looks like it might cancel my using the popping rod this weekend.

02-14-2008, 11:48 AM	#14 (permalink)
jureal Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 257	It will be a while before it gets wrapped. I just wanted to make sure that TJ doesn't run out of the blanks. I do have a couple of short phenix jigging rods built that are 5'8" in lenght. One is a spinner with 5 guides and the other is acid wrapped with 5 guides. Both are on the same blank with almost identical handle lenghts and are rated 400g with 27kg pulling strenght. Rated for line tests 30-60 lbs. In essense, if a rod requires 5 guides for spinning, the same should generally be true for an acid wrapped one. And yes, acid wrapped rods do not need as many guides as one wrapped conventionally. Both of these rods were tested by me using static testing and the guide placements were good using only 5 guides.

02-27-2008, 10:56 PM	#16 (permalink)
STx Fisherman Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 539	Kil, I am going to build a 5'6" jigging rod with a spiral wrap. How many guides are used on a rod like this with a spiral wrap for jigging?

02-28-2008, 08:42 AM	#19 (permalink)
ksong Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,132	Tom, I'll send you the blank.

02-28-2008, 09:08 AM	#20 (permalink)
lite-liner Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: little elm, tx., USA Posts: 465	Kil- is that a stainless steel ferrule? I like that a lot. I'd bet it seriously adds to the weight if it is, eh? -Brian

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