Trinidad TN20 for Jigging and popping? - Page 2

ksong · 03-08-2008, 02:56 PM

I experimented Torgue 200 and Accurate 870 two-speed on the Three Kings Islands, NZ trip last year.
I tried 870 first, but I didn't like the lever drag reel at all for jigging and spent the rest of trip with Torgue 200.
The drag was superb and castability was average, not great and not bad.
The cranking power was surprisingly good considering the reel is high gear ratio and very small (2/0 size).
The reel is pretty heavy for its size (29 oz ? ), but I didn't feel it was heavy while fishing as the reel is so small.
I barely got 20-22 lbs drag way below their claim, but I think my particular reel had a problem.

catches with Torque 200 on the NZ trip.

fishr1989 · 03-08-2008, 09:09 PM

how big is that seabass? it looks like it's over 100lbs!

ksong · 03-08-2008, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishr1989

how big is that seabass? it looks like it's over 100lbs!

about 110 lbs.

hatidua · 03-09-2008, 09:54 PM

Great fish Kil!

As to the original posted question, let's try to remember that the guy wants to fish from a kayak. Now, grab a scale and set any reel/rod combo you want to 15#s of drag (measured with a scale, not a guess). Now, imagine sitting down, in a kayak, and then read all the posts that suggest a reel with 25#s or more of drag. Get back to me when you've tried a true 25#s of drag in a kayak.....if you make it back.

I see a lot of posts that recant using X amount of drag and have to shake my head and assume that they pulled the line off by hand and guessed at the drag amount because an honest-to-goodness 30#s of drag will just about pull a 6' tall 200# adult out of a boat even while wearing a harness. Been there, done it, just about went over.....a number of times. Here's what a scale-MEASURED 31#s of drag looks like in practice, not theory (good luck with that in a kayak) :

Mitchw123456 · 03-09-2008, 10:15 PM

in a vertical battle I will be able to do 20#s but if the fish gets out in front of me it wont happen as it will just drag the yak. I fusually fish 15#s now for sharks out of my yak now so I'm not terrible worried about 5# more. I do however believe its going to get much above 20#s as I'm expecting to have to cheat and lean awayfrom the fish to be able to put anypressure on them when they are straight down without turtling the yak.

I do agree with you though about alot of people not fighting fish with the amount of drag they think they are someimtes. I pushed my 50 sds to 45#s ONE time on a BIG shark from the beach that almost sent me water skiiing and I'm a tad shy of 300#s myself.

hatidua · 03-10-2008, 10:24 AM

I've had six Trinidads redone by "Hawk" on the Allcoast forum with carbontex drags and Cal's drag plate. I'd have no problem going after good sized fish with my TN20. However, for jigging repeatedly, I really like the 40N (which will put out nearly 40 #'s of drag once it's been tweaked). Granted, I never push it that high except on a scale when it was redone to see what was possible.

I kayak fish a good bit in Florida and as you mention, if the fish gets out front, it's a sleigh ride. Fun, but not overly effective in landing the fish in a hurry

03-08-2008, 02:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
ksong Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,412	review of Torque 200 I experimented Torgue 200 and Accurate 870 two-speed on the Three Kings Islands, NZ trip last year. I tried 870 first, but I didn't like the lever drag reel at all for jigging and spent the rest of trip with Torgue 200. The drag was superb and castability was average, not great and not bad. The cranking power was surprisingly good considering the reel is high gear ratio and very small (2/0 size). The reel is pretty heavy for its size (29 oz ? ), but I didn't feel it was heavy while fishing as the reel is so small. I barely got 20-22 lbs drag way below their claim, but I think my particular reel had a problem. catches with Torque 200 on the NZ trip. Last edited by ksong : 03-08-2008 at 02:58 PM.

03-08-2008, 09:09 PM	#12 (permalink)
fishr1989 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Newport, RI Posts: 359	how big is that seabass? it looks like it's over 100lbs! __________________ HowlinWolfCharters.com Everyone needs to believe in something, I believe I'll go fishing.

03-09-2008, 09:54 PM	#14 (permalink)
hatidua Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: various Posts: 182	Great fish Kil! As to the original posted question, let's try to remember that the guy wants to fish from a kayak. Now, grab a scale and set any reel/rod combo you want to 15#s of drag (measured with a scale, not a guess). Now, imagine sitting down, in a kayak, and then read all the posts that suggest a reel with 25#s or more of drag. Get back to me when you've tried a true 25#s of drag in a kayak.....if you make it back. I see a lot of posts that recant using X amount of drag and have to shake my head and assume that they pulled the line off by hand and guessed at the drag amount because an honest-to-goodness 30#s of drag will just about pull a 6' tall 200# adult out of a boat even while wearing a harness. Been there, done it, just about went over.....a number of times. Here's what a scale-MEASURED 31#s of drag looks like in practice, not theory (good luck with that in a kayak) : Last edited by hatidua : 03-09-2008 at 09:56 PM.

03-09-2008, 10:15 PM	#15 (permalink)
Mitchw123456 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 250	in a vertical battle I will be able to do 20#s but if the fish gets out in front of me it wont happen as it will just drag the yak. I fusually fish 15#s now for sharks out of my yak now so I'm not terrible worried about 5# more. I do however believe its going to get much above 20#s as I'm expecting to have to cheat and lean awayfrom the fish to be able to put anypressure on them when they are straight down without turtling the yak. I do agree with you though about alot of people not fighting fish with the amount of drag they think they are someimtes. I pushed my 50 sds to 45#s ONE time on a BIG shark from the beach that almost sent me water skiiing and I'm a tad shy of 300#s myself. Last edited by Mitchw123456 : 03-09-2008 at 10:17 PM.

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03-10-2008, 10:24 AM	#16 (permalink)
hatidua Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: various Posts: 182	I've had six Trinidads redone by "Hawk" on the Allcoast forum with carbontex drags and Cal's drag plate. I'd have no problem going after good sized fish with my TN20. However, for jigging repeatedly, I really like the 40N (which will put out nearly 40 #'s of drag once it's been tweaked). Granted, I never push it that high except on a scale when it was redone to see what was possible. I kayak fish a good bit in Florida and as you mention, if the fish gets out front, it's a sleigh ride. Fun, but not overly effective in landing the fish in a hurry

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