Rods Available for Big-E

Uncle Russ · 06-25-2008, 10:52 AM

(Edited to include the 700H Conventional): To all those going on the Big-E 76 hour upcoming trip, I have three rods which I do not intend to use that I would be happy to make available to anyone on the trip who:

1. Has an adequate reel and line, but a wussy rod.
2. Just would like to try them out.

One is the Calstar 760H: 130 pound rating, but really an 80 pound rod, 6 feet long with regular rollers and cold shrink on the fore-grip. I would have no problem with anyone's fishing this to about 35-40 pounds of drag.

A second is the Calstar 700HConventional: SIC guides 7-feet long, and rated for 30-80 pound braid. (See third rod below).

The third is the Calstar 700H Spinner: SIC guides 7-feet long, and rated for 30-80--a great combo for an 8,000 to 20,000 type reel and 50-80 pound line. I would be fine with this being fished at up to 30 pounds or so. I would ask you not to high-stick them or step on them, but I won't be standing over your shoulder the whole time monitoring.

If anyone expresses a serious need or interest in using any of these rods, I will be happy to bring them along. If noone does, they stay at home. I would hope that if more than one person has need for them, they would be willing to share. In either case, I would expect whoever borrowed them to manage and store them during the trip so I don't have to, and return them at the dock. Let me know if anyone is interested.

(This offer is conditioned on their being returned by the three dipsticks who are using them in Venice right now.

The odds against that could be staggering. )

Russ

BretABaker · 06-25-2008, 01:41 PM

I might head to the boat before it takes off with my drag scale and test everyone's drag. i am not buying 40lbs

PurEvl · 06-25-2008, 01:53 PM

That's pretty nice of you UR.

Uncle Russ · 06-25-2008, 02:42 PM

Purevl: Well, good of you to say so, but I have seen a lot of folks posting on this board who have the desire to do this kind of fishing but have a marginal tackle budget--and I ain't using the stuff on this trip. But I suspect most of those undertaking a 76-hour trip have more appropriate tackle than some who go on shorter trips. And besides, I know some of the old timers have supplied a lot more tackle than just a few measly rods. And finally, if somebody decides to take me up on it, how can they then turn me down when I beg them like a dog to haul the POS milk crate up the Big E's stairs? I ask you. Huh?

Bret: I'm surely not saying anybody OUGHT to fish the 760H (or anything else, for that matter), with 40 pounds of drag--just saying I'm pretty sure it can handle that. I have pulled 45 on it in garage tests.

Russ

BretABaker · 06-25-2008, 02:46 PM

oh yeah, it can definitely take it...theres just no need to really fish with it.

Uncle Russ · 06-25-2008, 02:50 PM

Bret: Agree. You may have heard some of my rants about one of my fishing buddies who believes in "maximum drag," and then when he gets a yellowfin on, he ends up bending over the rail like he was trying to make friends with the bad guys in prison.

He never wonders why he has pulled hooks.

Russ

BretABaker · 06-25-2008, 02:53 PM

well, unless the fish is a monster, it won't go too far with 22-24lbs of drag, especially on a jig or topwater.

i also think if most people set their drags with a scale, they'd be somewhat surprised that their settings are lighter than expected.

Uncle Russ · 06-25-2008, 03:03 PM

Bret: You lost me on that last sentence, Podnuh. Do you mean that their scales are inaccurate on the heavy side or that drag is different during the actual fight?

BretABaker · 06-25-2008, 03:04 PM

no I'm saying that a lot of times guys will say "oh, i dont need to use a scale, I KNOW what 24lbs feels like". yet when i pull on their reel vs mine which was set with a scale, it's much much lighter.

if you do set it with a scale then i believe it. i just don't see many guys do this too often.

PurEvl · 06-25-2008, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BretABaker

no I'm saying that a lot of times guys will say "oh, i dont need to use a scale, I KNOW what 24lbs feels like". yet when i pull on their reel vs mine which was set with a scale, it's much much lighter.

if you do set it with a scale then i believe it. i just don't see many guys do this too often.

This is true, I set my drags as Bret does.

06-25-2008, 10:52 AM	#1 (permalink)
Uncle Russ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,075	Rods Available for Big-E (Edited to include the 700H Conventional): To all those going on the Big-E 76 hour upcoming trip, I have three rods which I do not intend to use that I would be happy to make available to anyone on the trip who: 1. Has an adequate reel and line, but a wussy rod. 2. Just would like to try them out. One is the Calstar 760H: 130 pound rating, but really an 80 pound rod, 6 feet long with regular rollers and cold shrink on the fore-grip. I would have no problem with anyone's fishing this to about 35-40 pounds of drag. A second is the Calstar 700HConventional: SIC guides 7-feet long, and rated for 30-80 pound braid. (See third rod below). The third is the Calstar 700H Spinner: SIC guides 7-feet long, and rated for 30-80--a great combo for an 8,000 to 20,000 type reel and 50-80 pound line. I would be fine with this being fished at up to 30 pounds or so. I would ask you not to high-stick them or step on them, but I won't be standing over your shoulder the whole time monitoring. If anyone expresses a serious need or interest in using any of these rods, I will be happy to bring them along. If noone does, they stay at home. I would hope that if more than one person has need for them, they would be willing to share. In either case, I would expect whoever borrowed them to manage and store them during the trip so I don't have to, and return them at the dock. Let me know if anyone is interested. (This offer is conditioned on their being returned by the three dipsticks who are using them in Venice right now. The odds against that could be staggering. ) Russ __________________ "Tschirhart: Helluva deal. You bait the hooks--I catch the fish!--Grimm." Last edited by Uncle Russ : 06-25-2008 at 12:03 PM.

06-25-2008, 02:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
Uncle Russ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,075	Purevl: Well, good of you to say so, but I have seen a lot of folks posting on this board who have the desire to do this kind of fishing but have a marginal tackle budget--and I ain't using the stuff on this trip. But I suspect most of those undertaking a 76-hour trip have more appropriate tackle than some who go on shorter trips. And besides, I know some of the old timers have supplied a lot more tackle than just a few measly rods. And finally, if somebody decides to take me up on it, how can they then turn me down when I beg them like a dog to haul the POS milk crate up the Big E's stairs? I ask you. Huh? Bret: I'm surely not saying anybody OUGHT to fish the 760H (or anything else, for that matter), with 40 pounds of drag--just saying I'm pretty sure it can handle that. I have pulled 45 on it in garage tests. Russ __________________ "Tschirhart: Helluva deal. You bait the hooks--I catch the fish!--Grimm."

06-25-2008, 02:50 PM	#6 (permalink)
Uncle Russ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,075	Bret: Agree. You may have heard some of my rants about one of my fishing buddies who believes in "maximum drag," and then when he gets a yellowfin on, he ends up bending over the rail like he was trying to make friends with the bad guys in prison. He never wonders why he has pulled hooks. Russ __________________ "Tschirhart: Helluva deal. You bait the hooks--I catch the fish!--Grimm."

06-25-2008, 03:03 PM	#8 (permalink)
Uncle Russ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,075	Bret: You lost me on that last sentence, Podnuh. Do you mean that their scales are inaccurate on the heavy side or that drag is different during the actual fight? __________________ "Tschirhart: Helluva deal. You bait the hooks--I catch the fish!--Grimm."

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06-25-2008, 01:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
BretABaker Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pearland, TX Posts: 1,007	I might head to the boat before it takes off with my drag scale and test everyone's drag. i am not buying 40lbs

06-25-2008, 01:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
PurEvl Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 592	That's pretty nice of you UR.

06-25-2008, 02:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
BretABaker Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pearland, TX Posts: 1,007	oh yeah, it can definitely take it...theres just no need to really fish with it.

06-25-2008, 02:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
BretABaker Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pearland, TX Posts: 1,007	well, unless the fish is a monster, it won't go too far with 22-24lbs of drag, especially on a jig or topwater. i also think if most people set their drags with a scale, they'd be somewhat surprised that their settings are lighter than expected.

06-25-2008, 03:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
BretABaker Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pearland, TX Posts: 1,007	no I'm saying that a lot of times guys will say "oh, i dont need to use a scale, I KNOW what 24lbs feels like". yet when i pull on their reel vs mine which was set with a scale, it's much much lighter. if you do set it with a scale then i believe it. i just don't see many guys do this too often.

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