Long Range DVD s - Page 2

Uncle Russ · 05-20-2008, 07:55 PM

gman: Not sure which one it was on but I loved the part where one deck hand has about 5 lines in his fingers, running them up closer to the rail, while 3 others are watching him and rotating the rigs around each other until they are undone. Unbelievable.

Deep Gull: What? The tube is not completely real? You are right. I am old enough to know better. The first TV show I ever saw was in 1948. They had some experimental shows in San Antonio and we went over to some friends' house in our 193? Ford. There was a huge electrical storm and the little 5 inch or so circular screen had nothing but static on it. Then all of a sudden, there was a huge flash of lightning and a face appeared--and it was saying something. Sheeeeeeuuut, Vern--figured it was the end of time--or at least little Uncle Russ. I thought Brother Little of the Ezzell Church of Christ was right and the devil really was coming to drag me down into the pits of hell. For all I knew, that poor SOB (who turned out to be Herb Shriner) was trapped inside the box. But then, I was never a bright child.

Russ

Uncle Russ · 05-21-2008, 07:26 AM

Having watched "Big Boat--Big Fish II", I find that Glenn is correct. The tackle is much more state-of-the-art in that video and several people were using the rail. I also noticed a couple of people who were sort of using the rail to get into their harness, but actually, I think they just had their drag set higher than they should have and got pinned down on it while making the transition. I'm still puzzled by what you do when you are just standing there with the rod under your arm in freespool and a fish starts running. Do you honk down on him to "Strike" just holding the rod under your arm or do you first put the rod in your plate and fight him a while--only putting on your haress straps after he is straight up and down? One of the comments by the captain is that "getting into your harness immediately is the worst thing you can do."

On the Big E and on Captain Eddie's boat, the practice is to leave the rod in the holder, then when the fish runs with the bait, slowly move the lever to strike. Then my practice was to harness up immediately--so that may well be the wrong move.

Russ

Russ

MrBill · 05-21-2008, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Russ

I'm still puzzled by what you do when you are just standing there with the rod under your arm in freespool and a fish starts running. Russ

Russ

Just keep your thumb on the spool while it's free lining out. You'll know when a tuna has taken it. It's not a violent strike like a wahoo hitting it a 50MPH. They really don't know the're hooked at this point and are still just swimming around looking for another chunk.

Just keep your thumb on the spool and slowly move the lever to strike with your left hand. Fight the fish as you please. You really don't need a harness in the GOM as the YF's seldom go over 125#'s.

Uncle Russ · 05-21-2008, 09:22 AM

Thanks, MrBill. I fought my last fish--about 70 pounds without a harness (because I saw Fred--gimmedeal--do it and I started to feel like a manly man.

)and got my ass whipped--but then the others I fought with the harness also whipped my ass. So I think the common denominator is that I am going to get my ass whipped regardless--unless of course I gut it up and get back in shape--and that's one scary thought.

Russ

gman · 05-21-2008, 09:38 AM

I never leave my rod in the holder while chunking I always keep it under my arm and pull of line with my other hand with my thumb on teh spool ... when I get bit I reel like hell because I use circles

jig · 05-21-2008, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gman

I never leave my rod in the holder while chunking I always keep it under my arm and pull of line with my other hand with my thumb on teh spool ... when I get bit I reel like hell because I use circles

Ditto, that's what I do.

Uncle Russ · 05-21-2008, 10:25 AM

How much drag can you guys apply, even pointing at the fish, with the rod tucked under your arm?

gman · 05-21-2008, 10:28 AM

IMHO I always want to be as prepared as possible, that means being able to react as fast as I can to any situation for me this means holding the rod. Many charters leave rods in the holders not because its the best practice but because they want to eliminate user error. They are afraid that most novice anglers will rear back and try to hook the fish wrong or not engage the drag properly.

Im not saying this is why the Big E operates but a lot of boats that I know practice this because of those reasons. In theory they want the fish to be hooked by the boat.

bunile · 05-21-2008, 06:22 PM

Ther is a good demo of using big bait (skipjack) and then you'll need to pull hard on the strike to get the hook point to rip through the bait and into the big fishes mouth, (Literaly rip through the bait) if using a smaller sardine and circle hooks the hookset doesn't need to be total uunnnggghhhh!!!(STRONG). That is stretch etc. but the big bait with a big hook needs the big YANKING HOOKSET, BBBOOOOYYYAAAAAHHHHHH!!...Whew, I'm tired already!

gman · 05-21-2008, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Russ

How much drag can you guys apply, even pointing at the fish, with the rod tucked under your arm?

The rod is only under my arm until i start fighting then it goes into my belt. My accurate 50W was set to 22lbs at strike

05-20-2008, 07:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
Uncle Russ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,051	gman: Not sure which one it was on but I loved the part where one deck hand has about 5 lines in his fingers, running them up closer to the rail, while 3 others are watching him and rotating the rigs around each other until they are undone. Unbelievable. Deep Gull: What? The tube is not completely real? You are right. I am old enough to know better. The first TV show I ever saw was in 1948. They had some experimental shows in San Antonio and we went over to some friends' house in our 193? Ford. There was a huge electrical storm and the little 5 inch or so circular screen had nothing but static on it. Then all of a sudden, there was a huge flash of lightning and a face appeared--and it was saying something. Sheeeeeeuuut, Vern--figured it was the end of time--or at least little Uncle Russ. I thought Brother Little of the Ezzell Church of Christ was right and the devil really was coming to drag me down into the pits of hell. For all I knew, that poor SOB (who turned out to be Herb Shriner) was trapped inside the box. But then, I was never a bright child. Russ __________________ "Tschirhart: Helluva deal. You bait the hooks--I catch the fish!--Grimm." Last edited by Uncle Russ : 05-20-2008 at 07:58 PM.

05-21-2008, 07:26 AM	#12 (permalink)
Uncle Russ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,051	Having watched "Big Boat--Big Fish II", I find that Glenn is correct. The tackle is much more state-of-the-art in that video and several people were using the rail. I also noticed a couple of people who were sort of using the rail to get into their harness, but actually, I think they just had their drag set higher than they should have and got pinned down on it while making the transition. I'm still puzzled by what you do when you are just standing there with the rod under your arm in freespool and a fish starts running. Do you honk down on him to "Strike" just holding the rod under your arm or do you first put the rod in your plate and fight him a while--only putting on your haress straps after he is straight up and down? One of the comments by the captain is that "getting into your harness immediately is the worst thing you can do." On the Big E and on Captain Eddie's boat, the practice is to leave the rod in the holder, then when the fish runs with the bait, slowly move the lever to strike. Then my practice was to harness up immediately--so that may well be the wrong move. Russ Russ __________________ "Tschirhart: Helluva deal. You bait the hooks--I catch the fish!--Grimm."

05-21-2008, 09:22 AM	#14 (permalink)
Uncle Russ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,051	Thanks, MrBill. I fought my last fish--about 70 pounds without a harness (because I saw Fred--gimmedeal--do it and I started to feel like a manly man. )and got my ass whipped--but then the others I fought with the harness also whipped my ass. So I think the common denominator is that I am going to get my ass whipped regardless--unless of course I gut it up and get back in shape--and that's one scary thought. Russ __________________ "Tschirhart: Helluva deal. You bait the hooks--I catch the fish!--Grimm."

05-21-2008, 10:25 AM	#17 (permalink)
Uncle Russ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,051	How much drag can you guys apply, even pointing at the fish, with the rod tucked under your arm? __________________ "Tschirhart: Helluva deal. You bait the hooks--I catch the fish!--Grimm."

05-21-2008, 06:22 PM	#19 (permalink)
bunile Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: surf Posts: 108	Ther is a good demo of using big bait (skipjack) and then you'll need to pull hard on the strike to get the hook point to rip through the bait and into the big fishes mouth, (Literaly rip through the bait) if using a smaller sardine and circle hooks the hookset doesn't need to be total uunnnggghhhh!!!(STRONG). That is stretch etc. but the big bait with a big hook needs the big YANKING HOOKSET, BBBOOOOYYYAAAAAHHHHHH!!...Whew, I'm tired already! __________________ IT STAYS WITH YOU

05-21-2008, 09:38 AM	#15 (permalink)
gman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 977	I never leave my rod in the holder while chunking I always keep it under my arm and pull of line with my other hand with my thumb on teh spool ... when I get bit I reel like hell because I use circles

05-21-2008, 10:28 AM	#18 (permalink)
gman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 977	IMHO I always want to be as prepared as possible, that means being able to react as fast as I can to any situation for me this means holding the rod. Many charters leave rods in the holders not because its the best practice but because they want to eliminate user error. They are afraid that most novice anglers will rear back and try to hook the fish wrong or not engage the drag properly. Im not saying this is why the Big E operates but a lot of boats that I know practice this because of those reasons. In theory they want the fish to be hooked by the boat.

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