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Old 06-18-2008, 04:39 PM   #11 (permalink)
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you guys sound like you are working lures for bass fishing pretty soon, yall will be throwing 10 ounce spinnerbaits
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Old 06-18-2008, 04:43 PM   #12 (permalink)
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thats not a bad idea

i think when they said to keep the tips high they assumed everyone was popping, when in fact most of us has swimbaits.
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Old 06-18-2008, 04:54 PM   #13 (permalink)
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you guys sound like you are working lures for bass fishing pretty soon, yall will be throwing 10 ounce spinnerbaits
I think bass fishermen have anvantage for popping tuna. The only difference between bass popping and tuna popping is tuna are a little bigger and lures are a little bigger. If you mastered the walk-the-dog technique for Heddon's Zara Spook, you'll outfish other fishermen on a tuna boat.
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Old 06-18-2008, 04:56 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I think bass fishermen have anvantage for popping tuna. The only difference between bass popping and tuna popping is tuna are a little bigger and lures are a little bigger. If you mastered the walk-the-dog technique for Heddon's Zara Spook, you'll outfish other fishermen on a tuna boat.

of course, you're assuming they're not fishing with bass tackle, as we saw several times on the Big E!!!!
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Old 06-18-2008, 05:05 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Kil: This is a GREAT thread. If you don't have enough deck hands telling you how to fish, I will try to help!

I asked Sami some time ago about how to work the Shibuki and he replied: "...rod tip down retreive and twitch with a sudden stop." Of course, I had not specified lipless or lipped. He also said this was the way to fish the Skagit Designs Lip Slider, so maybe he was referring to only the lipped version.

Has anyone used or had any succes with the lip slider or the Tackle House CS-130, and if so, how did you fish it? (Sami recommends that if tuna are shy, you blind cast and let it sink to the indicated depth, then steady retrieve with the rod tip down.) This is a very dense, heavy lure for its size and almost resembles a jig.

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Amen to that bass tackle--we saw one guy...but I promised to quit *****ing about that.

It seems to me that you would want folks working poppers to hold their rods up and folks who are working the sub-surface to hold them down--this would avoid tangles--not cause them--just my opinion.
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Old 06-18-2008, 05:12 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I used the Skagit on one fish this trip. I found it in my box after my trip to North Carolina (Glenn - I think I accidentally grabbed this from you). I caught one blackfin, but when I went to take the hook out, the treble hook snapped! I'm not sure what kind of hook it was, but the moral is to check your hooks for corrosion before fishing!
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Old 06-18-2008, 05:16 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Kil: This is a GREAT thread. If you don't have enough deck hands telling you how to fish, I will try to help!

I asked Sami some time ago about how to work the Shibuki and he replied: "...rod tip down retreive and twitch with a sudden stop." Of course, I had not specified lipless or lipped. He also said this was the way to fish the Skagit Designs Lip Slider, so maybe he was referring to only the lipped version.

Has anyone used or had any succes with the lip slider or the Tackle House CS-130, and if so, how did you fish it? (Sami recommends that if tuna are shy, you blind cast and let it sink to the indicated depth, then steady retrieve with the rod tip down.) This is a very dense, heavy lure for its size and almost resembles a jig.

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Amen to that bass tackle--we saw one guy...but I promised to quit *****ing about that.

It seems to me that you would want folks working poppers to hold their rods up and folks who are working the sub-surface to hold them down--this would avoid tangles--not cause them--just my opinion.

I would assume you would work it same way. I made bigger spalsh with popper with rod tip down than up =)
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It seems to me that you would want folks working poppers to hold their rods up and folks who are working the sub-surface to hold them down--this would avoid tangles--not cause them--just my opinion.


I've been on the Big E for the 2 most wide open bites it's ever had. In both cases, I'd say over 80% of the YFT were landed on poppers and neither time do I remember a single tangle between popper fishermen. On the other hand, jig fishermen working jigs that are way too light (on the down current side) are the plague rats of party boat tangles.

And re: bass fishermen popping for tuna: a shibuki is just a tarted up bang-o-lure. Maybe someone'll break out the jig and pigs for grouper.
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Sea Crappie: I carefully read the brochure about the sophisticated design and features of the Shibuki, and didn't see anything at all in there about any bang-o-lure!
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OMG! Here I placed an order with Randy and now I see this thread!!

This jigging and popping is getting expensive!
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