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Old 02-02-2010, 01:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I've watched it several times and there is a red margin on the left and a black margin on the right. There is also a piece of tape going across the spool. I can't really tell what the margins on each side are but they are both wobbling as the spool turns. You can take a Garcia Ambassedeur and remove all pressure from the end of the shaft and increase it's free spool time. That appears to have been done here. I'm trying to remember where and can't but it seems that some reel guy recommended against the ceramic bearings. I believe it was his opinion they might crush under heavy loads. I can't say with certainty.
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Old 02-02-2010, 11:23 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Very impressive vid , but I think I would like to have that reel in hand before the test to decide just how impressed I was going to be by the spin time of the setup.

Not that this might not be genuine, but over the years I have seen some very impressive spin times that lost credibility when the spool fill was examined.

When beers are on the line as the bet & the reels are on the bar everyone gets to check the reels out, cause some sneaky tricks were played in such situations and miscreants banned from future competitions after being obliged to shout the rest of the competitors till the bar closed........He He.
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Old 02-02-2010, 11:36 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Excellent first post!

I have J/M PE Serial No 000001. It is an amazing reel I will have to try and time how long the f/s is but 3 min is a long time.
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Old 02-02-2010, 11:51 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Great job my friend!

What are you jigging with these reels in Israel?
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Old 02-02-2010, 11:57 PM   #15 (permalink)
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ahhhh hate to rain down on the party but Alan Tani got you beat by 2 minutes
5 minutes 40 seconds of freespool - www.ifish.net

Daiwa sealines also have excellent freespool, even the beat up used ones, you can get it to spin for 90 seconds without any upgrades without trying.

I have an old beat up first generation Avet SX with no oil or grease, totally bone dry, and got 45 seconds of freespool on that.

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Old 02-03-2010, 06:53 AM   #16 (permalink)
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well, using a HUGE shimano tld 30II was, um, cheating, just a little....
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Old 02-03-2010, 08:39 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I think this is really cool. And NOT taking anything away from OP or guys that can do this with large reels...

But when I jig, I've found that many jigs drop faster if you SLOW the spool down some to eliminate jig flutter... I'll either lightly pinch the line, thumb the spool on conventionals, or lightly grab around the spool on spinners on the drop. And I've noticed many, many others do the same...

So while I do appreciate the technical expertise and think this is really cool for bragging rights or maybe casting light weights... (jigs are heavy) I've never seen free-spool as a major factor with jigging reels. Decent free-spool, narrow spool, ZERO spool binding, smooth & powerful drag, good line retreive rate, plenty of line capacity, etc... are the things I'm personally concerned with...

For me anyway, this would just help me backlash the reel that much worse.

Really not hatin. Just sayin that a lot of guys reading this are new to the sport and are likely confused by all of the info and choices available... Decent freespool is important. But minutes of freespool isn't something to obsess over if you're just trying to pick out a new jigging reel IMO.

Maybe I'm just the Lone Stranger on this.

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Old 02-03-2010, 03:26 PM   #18 (permalink)
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jason, the way i look at this issue is like this.....

having a reel with excellent freespool is the place that you start. it doesn't mean that you are staying there. once you get your reel properly serviced, you then have to go out and fish with it. at that point, you can easily slow down your reel if circumstances dictate. it is, after all, much easier to slow down a fast reel than it is to speed up a slow reel. this particularly applies to casting live baits. there are times when a 10 yard cast will not get you bit and when a 20 yard cast will. and this is not even considering the situation of distance casters that fish for stripers on the east coast beaches. these are guys that are looking for 100 yard casts. i personally could never cast anything that far. hell, i can't even SEE that far. but if you're yoyo'ing straight up and down, you might be able to get away with axle grease in the bearings. every situation is different. alan
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Old 02-03-2010, 07:13 PM   #19 (permalink)
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minutes of freespool isn't something to obsess over if you're just trying to pick out a new jigging reel IMO.

Maybe I'm just the Lone Stranger on this.

No. I'm with you. I'm more interested in freespool after the drag preset is set at 25#s or more and then the lever pushed back to freespool. I hate reels that bind up when fishing with heavy drag pressure. You feel like you are fighting the reel more than the fish.

I've never been to a bar where the patrons place reels on the bar and bet on freespool. I guess I live in the wrong place. My father once told me. "Son, never bet on anything that has blood running through it". Dice, cards, and roulette wheels are my favorite. I might have to add freespool reels to my list. Now, I just need to find a bar that does it.
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No. I'm with you. I'm more interested in freespool after the drag preset is set at 25#s or more and then the lever pushed back to freespool. I hate reels that bind up when fishing with heavy drag pressure. You feel like you are fighting the reel more than the fish.

I've never been to a bar where the patrons place reels on the bar and bet on freespool. I guess I live in the wrong place. My father once told me. "Son, never bet on anything that has blood running through it". Dice, cards, and roulette wheels are my favorite. I might have to add freespool reels to my list. Now, I just need to find a bar that does it.

Mr. Bill ur dad is/was a very wise man. My father also gave me the same advice and to live happy believe in the 3 "f"'s. I really can't post that on here but anyone who pm's I'd be happy to explain the 3 "f"s..pretty funny if u ask me.btw neat lil trick with the spool..tight lines.

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