Tackle Help !?!?

basschump

Howdy all-
This is my first post and I am trying to get this long range thing figured out.
I am an avid, tournament bass fisherman and would be considered a bass tackle ho for sure. I can't afford an offshore tackle addiction.

I am seriously considering an 52 hour trip in the spirng and trying to figure out what tackle I need. I read the link for recommended tackle in the party boat section of this forum and have read a ton other posts.

I own 40-100 lb Cabelas Conventional Rod (1st guide and tip are rollers) paired with a Daiwa 600H reel (single speed).
Would this outfit with braid be adequate as a chunk/deep bait rod?

I also own a speedmaster 6:1/ heavy action ugly stick. I works great for kings. I also used it last summer drifting shrimpers for bf tuna, and it seemed adequate. Would this outfit have a use on the Big E?

I would like to purchase a jigging/topwater rod- but don't know if I want conventional or spinning.

I can't afford stella and the nicer 2 speeds.

I was thinking something in the price range of a saltist 40 and a sea majic rod. I am not sure if it will throw the poppers or is quite enough for a large yellowfin.

For spinning- something like the Saragosa 18000.

I would appreciate any insights or adivice!

I'll ask for input on jigs and poppers in post.

This site is AWESOME!

BC

rtran · 08-04-2008, 03:53 PM

I can't chime in on the chunk/live bait but for jigging and popping you have pretty good choices already.

Saltiga 40 and sea majic rod is nice. Saragosa 18000 on a popping rod is also a good setup.

Sea Crappie · 08-04-2008, 04:12 PM

Basschump,

The shorter rods like the Seamagic will work for jigging, but you need a rod at least 7ft long for popping. If you want a single outfit to jig and pop with, you need to choose a rod at least 7ft. in length. You can easily jig with a long rod, but you cannot pop w/ a short one.

The Saragosa and an OTI popping rod would be a fantastic combo. Another rod to consider is the Calstar 700H wrapped as a spinner. There used to be some folks selling them semi-production, but you might need to DYI or have a custom builder make one for you.

Deep_Sea_Gull · 08-04-2008, 06:47 PM

Welcome to the board.

I have found that one can purchase nice older reels and rods from private sellers and fleabay.

My advice is to beg, borrow or rent some equipment. Take your own stuff too. Go fishing watch and ask questions and learn.

BretABaker · 08-04-2008, 06:54 PM

look for a penn baja special for a cheaper jigging reel.

saragosa will definitely work. as someone said, you should have at least a 7' rod for popping. I would go spinning even if you feel you're a very good caster, since you will inevitably get birds' nests after casting at night for long hours.

600H is fine for chunking.

gmack · 08-04-2008, 08:19 PM

Go with spinning for popping. I am pretty good casting a conventional reel, but at night from a rocking boat it's really hard. After about an hour casting my saltist with a popper I went for a spinner!

Gary

Uncle Russ · 08-04-2008, 08:49 PM

chump:The first bait rod I bought was the very Cabelas rod you are describing--to be paired with a665 wide high (single) speed reel. I pulled on it but never fished with it. Then I read a few posts that warned that rod might break easily. I don't believe it now, but I worried about it then--personally from my brief kinda-sorta living-room experience with that rod, I think it would handle 20-25 pounds of drag just fine, and most here will not advise you to go above tht for tuna (although more might be helpful for prying grouper and amberjack away from structure.) All I can really speak to here is that rod, and I would suspect it will do OK for you--at least until you can upgrade.

Russ

Capt Richie · 08-04-2008, 09:04 PM

BC; I would find a good offshore tackle shop..I recommend Trophy Tackle John SR & JR not only sell everthing you may need but are experienced fisherman..
They carry all top of the line rods, reels, lures & jigs...You can check out there wedsite at Tuna Fish Tackle - Offshore and Inshore Premium Fishing Tackle
Dont forget to ask about there custom GUSA Wahoo rods..

bunile · 08-04-2008, 09:18 PM

Bass fishing is better. This offshore is for CRAZY PEOPLE !!!

crazyjigr · 08-04-2008, 09:50 PM

Saltiga 40 to jig and short cast or chunk w/6 to 7', h (50lb) to xh (80) rod of choice
A quality spinner like saragosa just upgrade drags or a stella 8000 if you can pull it off (just sell off some of the excess bass junk you dont use) paired with an OTI popping rod 50lb or similar rod, I dont think you'll find a better rod for the $$.
These 2 outfits should have you set and happy for a long time and if you decide to stick to bassin you shouldn't have any problems getting your $ back out of them.
As Bunile said "bass fishing is better this offshore is for crazy people"
Welcome to the assilum, Oh and bass fishing is not better at least not for me!
Anyone want to buy a 522 ranger comanche with a 250hp yamaha????

08-04-2008, 04:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
Sea Crappie Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 206	Basschump, The shorter rods like the Seamagic will work for jigging, but you need a rod at least 7ft long for popping. If you want a single outfit to jig and pop with, you need to choose a rod at least 7ft. in length. You can easily jig with a long rod, but you cannot pop w/ a short one. The Saragosa and an OTI popping rod would be a fantastic combo. Another rod to consider is the Calstar 700H wrapped as a spinner. There used to be some folks selling them semi-production, but you might need to DYI or have a custom builder make one for you. __________________ "Vegetarians, and their Hezbollah-like splinter faction, the vegans, are a persistent irritant to any chef worth a damn. To me, life without veal stock, pork fat, sausage, organ meat, demi-glace, or even stinky cheese is a life not worth living. Vegetarians are the enemy of everything good and decent in the human spirit, and an affront to all I stand for..........." Anthony Bourdain

08-04-2008, 08:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
Uncle Russ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,136	chump:The first bait rod I bought was the very Cabelas rod you are describing--to be paired with a665 wide high (single) speed reel. I pulled on it but never fished with it. Then I read a few posts that warned that rod might break easily. I don't believe it now, but I worried about it then--personally from my brief kinda-sorta living-room experience with that rod, I think it would handle 20-25 pounds of drag just fine, and most here will not advise you to go above tht for tuna (although more might be helpful for prying grouper and amberjack away from structure.) All I can really speak to here is that rod, and I would suspect it will do OK for you--at least until you can upgrade. Russ __________________ "Tschirhart: Helluva deal. You bait the hooks--I catch the fish!--Grimm."

08-04-2008, 09:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
bunile Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: surf Posts: 108	Bass fishing is better. This offshore is for CRAZY PEOPLE !!! __________________ IT STAYS WITH YOU

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08-04-2008, 03:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
rtran Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 980	I can't chime in on the chunk/live bait but for jigging and popping you have pretty good choices already. Saltiga 40 and sea majic rod is nice. Saragosa 18000 on a popping rod is also a good setup.

08-04-2008, 06:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
Deep_Sea_Gull Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: GA Posts: 613	Welcome to the board. I have found that one can purchase nice older reels and rods from private sellers and fleabay. My advice is to beg, borrow or rent some equipment. Take your own stuff too. Go fishing watch and ask questions and learn.

08-04-2008, 06:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
BretABaker Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pearland, TX Posts: 1,293	look for a penn baja special for a cheaper jigging reel. saragosa will definitely work. as someone said, you should have at least a 7' rod for popping. I would go spinning even if you feel you're a very good caster, since you will inevitably get birds' nests after casting at night for long hours. 600H is fine for chunking.

08-04-2008, 08:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
gmack Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Houma, Louisiana Posts: 97	Go with spinning for popping. I am pretty good casting a conventional reel, but at night from a rocking boat it's really hard. After about an hour casting my saltist with a popper I went for a spinner! Gary

08-04-2008, 09:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
Capt Richie Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 90	BC; I would find a good offshore tackle shop..I recommend Trophy Tackle John SR & JR not only sell everthing you may need but are experienced fisherman.. They carry all top of the line rods, reels, lures & jigs...You can check out there wedsite at Tuna Fish Tackle - Offshore and Inshore Premium Fishing Tackle Dont forget to ask about there custom GUSA Wahoo rods..

08-04-2008, 09:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
crazyjigr Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: dacula, Ga Posts: 177	Saltiga 40 to jig and short cast or chunk w/6 to 7', h (50lb) to xh (80) rod of choice A quality spinner like saragosa just upgrade drags or a stella 8000 if you can pull it off (just sell off some of the excess bass junk you dont use) paired with an OTI popping rod 50lb or similar rod, I dont think you'll find a better rod for the $$. These 2 outfits should have you set and happy for a long time and if you decide to stick to bassin you shouldn't have any problems getting your $ back out of them. As Bunile said "bass fishing is better this offshore is for crazy people" Welcome to the assilum, Oh and bass fishing is not better at least not for me! Anyone want to buy a 522 ranger comanche with a 250hp yamaha????

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