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Japanese Style Spinning rod for Butterfly Jigging


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Howdy folks! I've been a big fan of Japanese style butterfly jigging ever since I first saw Jose Wejebe on ESPN2's Spanish Fly show use the technique out on the oil rigs off Venice to catch small YFT, Kingfish and Big Snapper/Grouper a couple years ago. I've had some success using smaller 2oz. Butterfly Jigs on my St. Croix Tidemaster rod with an Okuma EB-50 on open boat charters out of H&M Landing in San Diego and on the Spitfire in Redondo Beach, CA catching Cudas, small bonito and yellowtail last year, but that's been it so far for my fish catching experiences with jigging.

Now, with my newly acquired tax return money, I'd like to buy some rods specific towards jigging with spinning reels

Would the best option be to get one rod for lighter butterfly jigs and another for the heavier jigs upto 600g? I've read that you can use lighter jigs with the heavier lure rated jigging rods, but what would be the smallest jig you could effectively use on a 500g or 600g rod? That's the $100 question I'm on a budget (so I can buy one of Paul's custom tuna rods for my Acurrate 665W 2 spd!!!) so cost is a concern to consider. I've probably got around $250 to spend on a jigging spinning rod(s). So far, I've been looking at:
1) Hopper rods - I could pick up 2 of these rods (one for lighter and one for heavier jigs) for under $250. I've been looking at the HOPS165FH for lighter jigs and the HOPS-500FH and HOPS-600FH for heavier duties.
2) OTI rods - From what I've read on here, they have a 600g spinning jigging rod as well and are regarded as top quality products. Don't know how much they cost since I can't seem to find their spinning jigging rods on oceantackle.net
3) Van Staal Jigging Rod - I found that the VJS58-500 is rated upto 500g and is right at my price limit of $249. The big question would be if the VJS58-500 could still handle lighter jigs and not overpower their action.
4) Lamiglas Tropic Pro Jigging & Popping Rod - The TP5650SJ sounds like it could cover 85% of my jig size (rated for 5-16 oz) and is priced moderately at $179.95. It could probably still jig 3-5oz lures well....
5) VFox Tblade Tournament Type rod - This is a rod company that I found on ebay that uses Expert Graphite Blanks/Fuji SiC guides and is built in Japan (although the seller is from Malaysia). I was looking at either the J554S or the J556S rods they have listed. The J554S has a PE line Weight of PE4-8, a Lure Weight of 250-350g and a "Max" (drag?) of 24kg. The J556S has a PE line Weight of PE6-10, a Lure Weight from 350-450g with a "Max" (drag?) of 27kg. Both sell for $217.00. But once again, the big question would be if these rods could still handle lighter jigs and not overpower their action. I've heard nothing, but good reviews about VFox rods, but some people have said it may be a little heavy which is not good if I plan on jigging throughout the night
6) Quantum Boca Jigging Spin Rod and Daiwa Saltiga Boat Jigging Rod - Affordable, lots of rods with a variety of lure weight ratings and made from 2 well respected companies. I haven't heard anything bad about them, but I haven't heard anything great either. Based on other members' reviews and feedback, I'd rather purchase some Hopper Rods for the same price ($99.95) instead of these....

That's all I've found through a few days of searching that might suit my budget and needs. I'm looking for rod(s) that are LIGHT, have a nice parabolic action and sturdy. If you have any feedback or comments on the rods I've listed please post up! I'm always willing to listen and learn more about fishing! Which of the rods above do you think is the lightest? Which has the most backbone? Which has the most flex? Most jigs I will be using will range from 4-10 oz and I will be fishing many different depths and species since I do a little bit of traveling (not as much as Kil tho!) every year.

I'm most likely going to purchase an Okuma V-80a spinning reel since it is economically priced ($174.95), has a good amount of line capacity and is "supposedly" rated for over 70lbs of drag I read on this forum that someone did test the drag upto ~37lbs or so and it was still real smooth....However, I haven't heard of a lot of people using this reel yet.

The other option is dependent on if I can swindle my way to getting a 35% off discount on a Shimano Saragosa 18000F spinning reel from an employee at Ramsey Outdoor I know that Kil has already tested this reel out on some 70-80lbs AJ down in NC so I know it can take a lot of abuse

Thanks for reading this long post!!! Jig'em up!

Brian

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Old 03-25-2008, 08:01 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Hey JB!

Check out the OTI 5'6" 600 g or 6' 300g production rods (You can get it through JPR). Paul also has our 5'9" 300g blank.

IMO, you should first get the best reel you can just barely afford. If you need to, I've got a couple of jigging and popping rods that I'll loan you until you can get the rod.

Shoot me a PM with your email and I'll give you the specifics. Sound good?
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I can tell you this Paul is an excellent rod builder. He built both of my custom 500g jigging master rods and both are amazing with extreme attention to detail.
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i just placed an order with Paul...hopefully get to use it in NC. Can't wait, should be a cool looking rod!
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Old 03-25-2008, 09:00 PM   #24 (permalink)
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what did you get done?
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Eagles theme, new OTI 5'6" 80lb rod
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Old 03-25-2008, 09:13 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Eagles theme, new OTI 5'6" 80lb rod


ohhhhhh no you didnt ha ha ha ha ha that is great. Now you just need a green anodized reel
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if someone can anodize a stella i'm all over it, haha!

I went back and forth between than and a PSU theme......maybe for the next one
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Hey JB!

Check out the OTI 5'6" 600 g or 6' 300g production rods (You can get it through JPR). Paul also has our 5'9" 300g blank.

IMO, you should first get the best reel you can just barely afford. If you need to, I've got a couple of jigging and popping rods that I'll loan you until you can get the rod.

Shoot me a PM with your email and I'll give you the specifics. Sound good?

Wow! That is super generous Ragman. I did not expect that at all! I will be stopping over Paul's on sunday so I'll be sure to check out all of the OTI rods/blanks And THANK YOU for supporting me on my "buy the reel first" idea I'm so flattered, but I cannot accept your gracious offer to use your rods as I wouldn't be able to use them to their fullest since they aren't mine. Plus if I were in your shoes, I don't think I could sleep at night if I lent someone my rods lol. When the time comes, however, I will definitely be looking into your spinning popping rod(s) for my offshore popping arsenal. Lastly, thank you for making me feel welcome here!

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if someone can anodize a stella i'm all over it, haha!
If you broke it down, I'm pretty sure I could get that done for you Besides fishing, I'm heavily into modifying cars and anodizing is a common service...
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If you broke it down, I'm pretty sure I could get that done for you Besides fishing, I'm heavily into modifying cars and anodizing is a common service...

I want it for so long to anodizing all my Van Staal reel with different color.
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