The Future of the Big E

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The future of the Big E

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Gunsmoke · 10-26-2007, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SkeeterRonnie

maybe gunsmoke will take us out for the $750 then..

I'm currently without a boat. It's actually a good feeling. Boats and offshore fishing is an expensive hobby. A nice 60 foot sportfishing boat is expensive to run. Every time you fuel up, you have to pull out around 4 grand. Add in all the other little stuff, it about 5 grand per fishing trip.

And you wonder why I toss crappy tackle overboard.

jaredchasteen · 10-26-2007, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunsmoke

I'm currently without a boat. It's actually a good feeling. Boats and offshore fishing is an expensive hobby. A nice 60 foot sportfishing boat is expensive to run. Every time you fuel up, you have to pull out around 4 grand. Add in all the other little stuff, it about 5 grand per fishing trip.

And you wonder why I toss crappy tackle overboard.

I already knew why. Did you sell your sled.

jig · 10-26-2007, 01:43 PM

I was at this strip bar in Norway a few years back. Absolutely beautiful women. But none were dancing. I asked how much a table dance cost and it was equivilent of just over $100. So being a CPA, I just had to ask the manager about the economics. His theory was that, since few customers ever had dances, he had to charge that much to pay the girls. I suggested that if he lowered the price to $25, many more customers would have dances, and he could likely make the same money. Plus, since his place would stop being so dead if the girls were dancing more, more people would come in to have a good time, buy drinks, etc. I suggested he would likely make much more money by actually charging less. He thought I was ridiculous.

The point is, sure you have to cover costs, but there is a market level out there for the service provided. If it costs too much per person to cover the costs, but no one goes because it is in excess of what the market will bear, you are lost. I think Elliots did it right when they started these trips at $400 to see what market was out there, and then they raised the price accordingly. As much as I like these trips, I doubt there are that many folks out there to fill the boat if you cross the $1000 mark. If you take 20 at $1000, or 30 at $750, it doesn't really cost any more, and the lower price gets more revenue.

Of course, finding that market price is the trick. Let's just hope most of us can afford it.

Can you tell I'm bored at work?

Uncle Russ · 10-26-2007, 04:41 PM

I agree with Gunsmoke that the price is going to be a lot higher--high enough I suspect I would personally choose 2-4 trips a year on smaller boats out of Venice.

The limits really are going to be a problem on a trip like that.

But what I REALLY want to see is Gunsmoke, Mr. Bill, gman, and lite-liner, shelling out 2 grand each and having that old homey of the Captain on board fishing light tackle, taking two hours to land a fish, (with the captain's approval and support) and taking other people's food off the grill.

Can you say "Swim to Cuba?"

Russ

mcgolfer · 10-26-2007, 08:09 PM

with the high prices and even higher prices forecated for a barrel of oil the price of all offshore trips is going to sky rocket.

gunsmoke
i am sorry to hear that your boatless. i sure wanted to hook up with you on that boat for a trip offshore. that was one pretty sportfisher.....rick

10-26-2007, 04:41 PM	#54 (permalink)
Uncle Russ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,136	I agree with Gunsmoke that the price is going to be a lot higher--high enough I suspect I would personally choose 2-4 trips a year on smaller boats out of Venice. The limits really are going to be a problem on a trip like that. But what I REALLY want to see is Gunsmoke, Mr. Bill, gman, and lite-liner, shelling out 2 grand each and having that old homey of the Captain on board fishing light tackle, taking two hours to land a fish, (with the captain's approval and support) and taking other people's food off the grill. Can you say "Swim to Cuba?" Russ __________________ "Tschirhart: Helluva deal. You bait the hooks--I catch the fish!--Grimm."

10-26-2007, 08:09 PM	#55 (permalink)
mcgolfer Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: antlers oklahoma Posts: 441	with the high prices and even higher prices forecated for a barrel of oil the price of all offshore trips is going to sky rocket. gunsmoke i am sorry to hear that your boatless. i sure wanted to hook up with you on that boat for a trip offshore. that was one pretty sportfisher.....rick __________________ there is no limit on tackle

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10-26-2007, 01:43 PM	#53 (permalink)
jig Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 241	I was at this strip bar in Norway a few years back. Absolutely beautiful women. But none were dancing. I asked how much a table dance cost and it was equivilent of just over $100. So being a CPA, I just had to ask the manager about the economics. His theory was that, since few customers ever had dances, he had to charge that much to pay the girls. I suggested that if he lowered the price to $25, many more customers would have dances, and he could likely make the same money. Plus, since his place would stop being so dead if the girls were dancing more, more people would come in to have a good time, buy drinks, etc. I suggested he would likely make much more money by actually charging less. He thought I was ridiculous. The point is, sure you have to cover costs, but there is a market level out there for the service provided. If it costs too much per person to cover the costs, but no one goes because it is in excess of what the market will bear, you are lost. I think Elliots did it right when they started these trips at $400 to see what market was out there, and then they raised the price accordingly. As much as I like these trips, I doubt there are that many folks out there to fill the boat if you cross the $1000 mark. If you take 20 at $1000, or 30 at $750, it doesn't really cost any more, and the lower price gets more revenue. Of course, finding that market price is the trick. Let's just hope most of us can afford it. Can you tell I'm bored at work?

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