Jigging / Popping Topshots - Page 2

Sea Crappie · 11-28-2006, 10:45 AM

Tom,

On the midknot, there are a few tricks to making it work right. And unless you're casting, I agree, use a L2L topshot.

1. When making the 15 up and 15 down wraps, go 5 close together, 5 spaced ~2mm apart and then 5 close together again.

2. After laying down the first few half-hitches (before tightening) moisten the knot and then spread the 15 up / 15 down wraps out by about 1cm total.

3. Use gloved hands (it'll take several wraps of the spectra around your hand to hold on) and pull the knot TIGHT and do so smoothly in one motion. During the fight, the knot will actually tighten a little more if tied correctly.

4. I haven't been able to make it work on flouro or "hard" mono leaders in a way i'd be comfortable it won't slip. This knot has to constrict the leader, and if that material is too hard it resists the knot. Try some Varivas or Jinkai next time you tie the knot and see how it works.

Maybe we should do a thread on chunking and live bait (non-bottom fishin) topshotting and leader making after this thread's run its course?

xs_tackle · 11-28-2006, 11:36 AM

EDIT--
Oops, response was really tangential to the thread. I've moved it.

Ragman · 11-28-2006, 12:20 PM

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TeamOso · 11-28-2006, 05:40 PM

I feel reel dumb for asking this, but I was just wondering what yall are talking about when you say loop to loop connections.
As ragman said, this site is great, and I think its 100000 times better than 2col.

Kevin

Deep_Sea_Gull · 11-28-2006, 07:17 PM

Take a look at these links TeamOSo... the whole website is chock full of info.

Here is the website for the topshot/ wind-on guru... Basil Pappas.

http://www.bhptackle.com

Here is the page for the loop to loop joins and such...

http://www.bhptackle.com/pages.php?pageid=6

ksong · 11-28-2006, 07:26 PM

Some more information on top-shot.

http://www.sportfishermen.com/board/...ics-14928.html

http://www.sportfishermen.com/board/...oop-14948.html

TeamOso · 11-28-2006, 07:56 PM

Thanks guys, Im glad Im soakin up all this info, becuase Im gonna have 3 days from the time i get my reel to get all this prepared. Im gonna start my own thread here is a sec.

Ragman · 11-29-2006, 08:28 AM

Unless TJ or Ronnie have me stocked up, I buy my topshots and wind-ons from Basil!

They are crafted really well and worth it to me!

11-28-2006, 12:20 PM	#13 (permalink)
Ragman Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 924	Definition tan‧gen‧tial /tænˈdʒɛnʃəl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[tan-jen-shuhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –adjective: 1. pertaining to or of the nature of a tangent; being or moving in the direction of a tangent. 2. merely touching; slightly connected: tangential information. 3. divergent or digressive, as from a subject under consideration: tangential remarks. 4. tending to digress or to reply to questions obliquely __________________ Tom www.oceantackle.net *Go Hard or Go Home!*

11-28-2006, 07:26 PM	#16 (permalink)
ksong Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,420	Some more information on top-shot. http://www.sportfishermen.com/board/...ics-14928.html http://www.sportfishermen.com/board/...oop-14948.html Last edited by ksong : 11-28-2006 at 08:06 PM.

11-29-2006, 08:28 AM	#18 (permalink)
Ragman Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 924	Unless TJ or Ronnie have me stocked up, I buy my topshots and wind-ons from Basil! They are crafted really well and worth it to me! __________________ Tom www.oceantackle.net *Go Hard or Go Home!*

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11-28-2006, 10:45 AM	#11 (permalink)
Sea Crappie Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 206	Tom, On the midknot, there are a few tricks to making it work right. And unless you're casting, I agree, use a L2L topshot. 1. When making the 15 up and 15 down wraps, go 5 close together, 5 spaced ~2mm apart and then 5 close together again. 2. After laying down the first few half-hitches (before tightening) moisten the knot and then spread the 15 up / 15 down wraps out by about 1cm total. 3. Use gloved hands (it'll take several wraps of the spectra around your hand to hold on) and pull the knot TIGHT and do so smoothly in one motion. During the fight, the knot will actually tighten a little more if tied correctly. 4. I haven't been able to make it work on flouro or "hard" mono leaders in a way i'd be comfortable it won't slip. This knot has to constrict the leader, and if that material is too hard it resists the knot. Try some Varivas or Jinkai next time you tie the knot and see how it works. Maybe we should do a thread on chunking and live bait (non-bottom fishin) topshotting and leader making after this thread's run its course?

11-28-2006, 11:36 AM	#12 (permalink)
xs_tackle Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 216	EDIT-- Oops, response was really tangential to the thread. I've moved it.

11-28-2006, 05:40 PM	#14 (permalink)
TeamOso Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Corpus/Pt A Posts: 479	I feel reel dumb for asking this, but I was just wondering what yall are talking about when you say loop to loop connections. As ragman said, this site is great, and I think its 100000 times better than 2col. Kevin

11-28-2006, 07:17 PM	#15 (permalink)
Deep_Sea_Gull Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: GA Posts: 614	Take a look at these links TeamOSo... the whole website is chock full of info. Here is the website for the topshot/ wind-on guru... Basil Pappas. http://www.bhptackle.com Here is the page for the loop to loop joins and such... http://www.bhptackle.com/pages.php?pageid=6

11-28-2006, 07:56 PM	#17 (permalink)
TeamOso Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Corpus/Pt A Posts: 479	Thanks guys, Im glad Im soakin up all this info, becuase Im gonna have 3 days from the time i get my reel to get all this prepared. Im gonna start my own thread here is a sec.

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