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Old 05-02-2008, 09:07 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I know APS just got the SMITH 52EX in and I believe OTI has theirs as well. Not trying to scare you about the dragonfly I just wasn't happy with it
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Old 05-02-2008, 09:29 AM   #12 (permalink)
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ahhh, To late Glenn....

I guess ill just get the OTI 600gr. I have yet to hear anything bad about the product so, thats that. Id rather hav full confidence in the rod than to be worried about breaking it. I like the idea of having the extrabackbone there if i need it.
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Old 05-02-2008, 09:56 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I have used a 400 for two seasons mostly with a JX and now with an 870. Its very comfortable to jig with and the action is great. I havent had any problems with it other than the tip eye which i bent and Chris replaced. I havent ran into a fish over 40lbs (AJ) with it yet but up to that it works great.
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Old 05-02-2008, 10:13 AM   #14 (permalink)
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20# is too much for the 400 gram. i would say max is 17# of drag. - its as light as a feather though and for blackfin and small YFT- its the shiznitz for the price!

i would venture to say a stella 8000 on a 600 gram Sea Magic-with 27# of drag would be one helluva combination for Gulf Tuna!
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Old 05-02-2008, 10:36 AM   #15 (permalink)
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20# is too much for the 400 gram. i would say max is 17# of drag. - its as light as a feather though and for blackfin and small YFT- its the shiznitz for the price!

i would venture to say a stella 8000 on a 600 gram Sea Magic-with 27# of drag would be one helluva combination for Gulf Tuna!


I would agree 100% with all of those comments
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Old 05-02-2008, 11:43 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I didn't have a great experience with the rod, it isn't a true 400g rod IMHO maybe a 300 max. When stressed out on larger fish with 20#'s of drag I got a lot of tip twist and the line was touching the blank and its lacked true backbone but thats my opinion versus other rods I have owned

I paired it with an accurate 665 and the reel was too much for the rod. Its a beautiful rod, made with nice components just not what I think it should be for the rating. I did lift test and it was almost identical to the XXH Trevala. 20 #'s is max, there is a review of the rod here on the site. The 600 seems more suitable for bigger fish


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I just purchased the 400 rod rated 80-200 and was happy with the action when I did the same weight test other than minor twisting. I paired it with my new accurate 665 2 speed which should arrive next thursday.



I dont know what type of drag pressure you plan on putting on this rod but the 665 will put out more than the rod can handle.
I put my 870 2 speed on the 600 gram and with 30 lbs of drag the line will start cutting into the grip. I know that it is quite a bit heavier than the 400 gram rod but if you are jigging for the big one or around rigs then you will want to put out all the drag you can and you will need a rod that can handle it.
I guess what I am getting at is why wouldn't you use a rod that can handle the reel that you put on it? IMO a few extra ounces of weight while jigging is worth it when you hook a big fish and need to yank him out of the rig.
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I told you so gman...... This was my post to you about a year ago.




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I just purchased the 400 rod rated 80-200 and was happy with the action when I did the same weight test other than minor twisting. I paired it with my new accurate 665 2 speed which should arrive next thursday.



I dont know what type of drag pressure you plan on putting on this rod but the 665 will put out more than the rod can handle.
I put my 870 2 speed on the 600 gram and with 30 lbs of drag the line will start cutting into the grip. I know that it is quite a bit heavier than the 400 gram rod but if you are jigging for the big one or around rigs then you will want to put out all the drag you can and you will need a rod that can handle it.
I guess what I am getting at is why wouldn't you use a rod that can handle the reel that you put on it? IMO a few extra ounces of weight while jigging is worth it when you hook a big fish and need to yank him out of the rig.


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Old 05-02-2008, 01:51 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Just giving you a hard time gman... I cant count how many rods and reels I had to sell shortly after buying them because it wasnt what I thought it was going to be...
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i know you are I was laughing my ass off when you posted that thread. Hindsight huh now if you could tell me the lottery numbers I will split it with you
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The rod is good....... Its a little on the stiff side but it will handle at least 30 lbs of drag. I have fished it for 2 seasons and caught my biggest fish on jigs with the rod.

The pic with the rod bending is at 25lbs of drag and you can see that it will handle more. The other pic is of a large AJ that I caught on the rod with no problem.


That is a slob of an AJ BTW
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