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Old 10-17-2006, 05:38 PM   #11 (permalink)
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powerpro sucks. wouldnt even perch fish with it! Loop to Loop connections ROCK!
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Old 10-17-2006, 06:52 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Uncle Russ
Rick and Bret:

Do you gentlemen have any problem with the heavier stuff (65 and above) getting the secondary wraps to draw down evenly over the 30-40 turns? I am having real trouble making an even, pretty knot. Russ

Just buy a 100 yard spool of 80-100# spectra and start practicing. When the spool is gone you'll be able to tie one in your sleep.

A couple of helpful hints:
1. After putting 30-50 twists in the spectra loop, put the loop over a stationary object -- I use 2 screwdriver handles that are stuck in my workbench.
2. keep a tension on the running line while holding the tag end at a right angle to the twists and pulling on the inside of the loop (the V on the twists on the inside of the loop) which will cause the line to roll over on itself forming the bimini.
3. Put a two wrap clove hitch (i think that the real name of the knot) to secure both legs of the bimini instead of the overhand knot.
4. Finish it with a 4-5 wrap clove hitch.

Btw, I usually use a 50 turn bimini.

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Old 10-17-2006, 07:28 PM   #13 (permalink)
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take the spectre and make a big loop and hold the tag end and the spectre with your left hand about 3 ft above where the loop will be centered. take your right hand and put it on the center of the loop and do your 40 or whatever twists. after you have completed your twists and still continue holding the spectre and tag end in your left hand and use your right hand to open the center of the loop and put the loop over both your feet with shoes on. take the tag end and pull it out to the side giving you some line to make your twists back down and to tie you half hitches with. this will bring the twists down closer to your feet. holding the tag end out to the side and pulling slightly downward start to spead your feet apart. this will cause to spectre to go back over the top of your up twists. pull your feet apart until the spectre twists back to the bottom of your original twists. keeping tension on the knot tie your half hitch in the leg on the right side of the loop then one of the left side of the loop then back to the right side of the loop then back to the left side of the loop. that makes 4 half hitches. 2 in the left leg and 2 in the right leg. then i tie about 8 to 10 more half hitches going over the twists and making sure that i don't catch the top of the twists with my half hitches. i then cut off the tag end. i could have tied several in the time it took me to type this. i think the key is using my feet to get the spectre to reverse itself and come back down to the loop. it takes very little time to do it this way.....rick
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Old 10-17-2006, 09:32 PM   #14 (permalink)
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seadog and Mcgolf:

I will try your methods. What they both have in common is the spreading of the loop to aid in the rolling up over the twists. All my life I have just put the loop (almost always mono) over my big toe, but never had the wherewithal to spread out the loop. It worked OK with the mono and the lighter braid, but I can see what you guys are saying. Thanks for the help.

And thanks for the advice on PowerPro, Skeeter.

It's funny some folks prefer the hollow braid even for the basic line and others the solid. Go figure.

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Old 10-17-2006, 11:12 PM   #15 (permalink)
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If tying a long loop, put both feet in like Rick says, then pull the loop up over (around) both knees. Spread you knees and pull on the standing line and the tag line will wrap nicely around the initial wraps. You can also take your index finger of the hand holding the tad end (right hand for most people) and use it to pull the inside of the twists up instead of spreading the knees. The old Mark Sosin/Left Kreh knot book shows this method in great detail.
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Old 10-18-2006, 10:11 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Thanks, David. Actually, when I was younger, I didn't use my big toe to hold the loop, but as I got older, I had to switch to that method!

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