Bimini Knot Problems

feeder · 07-13-2008, 12:48 PM

Hey Guys,

Has anyone else had any problems with their Bimini knots slipping when using braided lines? I've been tying everything from a 12 turn - 25 turn knot with 2-3 locks and finishing with the reverse uni as usual. A 40 turn will hold but it's way too big for my taste.

The problem only happens when I put the line under serious strain like tying it off to a stationary object and pulling on it with an iron rod. It basically slips down to become a hangman noose. I've even tried super glue to keep it from slipping but it just cracks and flakes off. Any advice?

Deep_Sea_Gull · 07-13-2008, 01:09 PM

Is your braid coated with wax or something?

feeder · 07-13-2008, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deep_Sea_Gull

Is your braid coated with wax or something?

I've tried it with SpiderWire Stealth, JB, Stren and PowerPro (both new and line that had gone through a season of fishing).

The JB (hollow core) seems to hold a little better but stills slips and I'm pretty sure that's uncoated. If the line has a coating it definately slips though.

Snagged · 07-13-2008, 01:22 PM

I use a seven turn surgens knot and no longer have a problem.

bigfishjaeck · 07-13-2008, 02:16 PM

Agree with the surgeon knot comment... I've never had problems.

Deep_Sea_Gull · 07-13-2008, 02:18 PM

I would pull an end loop in JB hollow core and forget the knot. Much more streamlined.

The 40 turn bimini should be longer and not fatter when properly tied.

Snagged · 07-13-2008, 02:44 PM

Tony,
Loops are the prefered method, but not all spectra or dyneema is hollow.
Anybody can tie a seven turn surgens knot in seconds.

Uncle Russ · 07-13-2008, 02:45 PM

Jerry Brown himself says that no knot is greater than 70 % in Spectra. The 7 turn Surgeon's Loop is one of the best--pull it up ssllloooowwwlllyy from both sides. The knot is a little fat but not too much so and very short.

Russ

feeder · 07-13-2008, 03:30 PM

So you guys seemed to have had the same problem with the Bimini in spectra then I take it.

Are you just using the surgeon's loop or doing a sugeon's knot join?

BretABaker · 07-13-2008, 03:58 PM

whatre you connecting it to?

07-13-2008, 12:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
feeder Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 144	Bimini Knot Problems Hey Guys, Has anyone else had any problems with their Bimini knots slipping when using braided lines? I've been tying everything from a 12 turn - 25 turn knot with 2-3 locks and finishing with the reverse uni as usual. A 40 turn will hold but it's way too big for my taste. The problem only happens when I put the line under serious strain like tying it off to a stationary object and pulling on it with an iron rod. It basically slips down to become a hangman noose. I've even tried super glue to keep it from slipping but it just cracks and flakes off. Any advice?

07-13-2008, 01:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
Snagged Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,114	I use a seven turn surgens knot and no longer have a problem. __________________ Jerry Uh oh, Snagged again!

07-13-2008, 02:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
Snagged Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,114	Tony, Loops are the prefered method, but not all spectra or dyneema is hollow. Anybody can tie a seven turn surgens knot in seconds. __________________ Jerry Uh oh, Snagged again!

07-13-2008, 02:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
Uncle Russ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,134	Jerry Brown himself says that no knot is greater than 70 % in Spectra. The 7 turn Surgeon's Loop is one of the best--pull it up ssllloooowwwlllyy from both sides. The knot is a little fat but not too much so and very short. Russ __________________ "Tschirhart: Helluva deal. You bait the hooks--I catch the fish!--Grimm."

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07-13-2008, 01:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
Deep_Sea_Gull Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: GA Posts: 610	Is your braid coated with wax or something?

07-13-2008, 02:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
bigfishjaeck Junior member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 14	Agree with the surgeon knot comment... I've never had problems.

07-13-2008, 02:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
Deep_Sea_Gull Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: GA Posts: 610	I would pull an end loop in JB hollow core and forget the knot. Much more streamlined. The 40 turn bimini should be longer and not fatter when properly tied.

07-13-2008, 03:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
feeder Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 144	So you guys seemed to have had the same problem with the Bimini in spectra then I take it. Are you just using the surgeon's loop or doing a sugeon's knot join?

07-13-2008, 03:58 PM	#10 (permalink)
BretABaker Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pearland, TX Posts: 1,267	whatre you connecting it to?

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