Accurate's new 30 & 50 Boss Style Reel

[xs_tackle]

Originally Posted by Formula4Fish

I can't believe those turkeys are putting out reels like that without harness lugs... particularly the 50# reel.

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The pix at New Accurate Boss Extreme Reels show lugs and the text there says they will sell the reels with both lugs and no-lug slugs, so the buyer gets to take his pick.


I don't see these as replacements for their ATD counterparts.

[MrBill]

Jeb,

I don't think these new extreme boss's are made to compete with the flagship Platinum counterparts. The new extreme boss's are half the price of the Platinums. I believe they are shooting for a market of dedicated anglers who can afford a Tiagra 30 or 50 but have always wanted an Accurate. Once that angler gets a taste of the new Extreme Boss (assuming it performs) they will eventually move up to the Platinum series.

If these new extreme series have problems it could backfire on them. The Tiagra series is so solid nobody thinks twice about buying another one. I think making the gears and shafts and spools extra heavy duty will make these new reels an instant success. We'll know in about a year if these reels are up to the task. Accurate claims they have tested these reels a bunch. Let's hope so as many are not happy with the smaller boss two speeds.

At least John Baker gives you a two year improvement warranty on his reels. My Baker 12 broke on the first fish. I sent it back and received the reel with improved gear shifting in about two weeks. I need to use it again to see if it will perform. I have yet to have a 665 two speed problem, but I've never really caught many big fish on them. I reluctant to buy the new B2-30 to become a tester and find out it doesn't cut the mustard. But, knowing myself, I'll pull the trigger some time this week.

The 665 is 3" in diameter. The new B2-30 is 3 1/2" in diameter. This is not intended to be a jigging reel, but it would not bother me as weight isn't a huge concern to me.

[wadefisherman]

I just spoke with an accurate rep, he said the B-30 weight 33 oz and b-50 44 oz. They're so heavy for me to be jigging all day.

[xs_tackle]

Originally Posted by wadefisherman

I just spoke with an accurate rep, he said the B-30 weight 33 oz and b-50 44 oz. They're so heavy for me to be jigging all day.

OTOH, I see wts of 36 and 41 oz reported here Accurate Boss Reels

I guess they'll smoothe out their info flow in a wk or so.

I like the height of the B2-665's and their casting and fighting characteristics; so, if they can get the mechanicals smoothed out (it seems they are getting over what they described to me was a batch of inferior gears), I'm inclined to stick with them and my ATD's and watch the new 30's and 50's from the sidelines.

[Mitchw123456]

I don't see why people are stuck on Accurates so much. I was going to buy a few of them but you hear more people complaining about Accurates than you do any of the big players in offshore reel lines.. Why pay twice as much for a reel that fail on a regular basis?

[Uncle Russ]

Mitch: You may well have seen otherwise, but I have not personally run into too many folks complaining about the Accurate product line in general (except maybe the price. ) Rather, complaints I have seen (and experienced) were with the Boss line and even then, the two-speeds. Someone (I think it was MrBill) some time ago said that there had been some ATD issues early on that were corrected, and I know the Twinspin 30 had a couple of what turned out to be minor problems--such as the line getting caught in a slot between the bail and the roller. And the comment made about their customer service being extremely helpful, but a bit disorganized is quite correct--I sent for a part once and they sent me a reel bag!

But most of those are minor issues, especially since, in the end they do take care of their customers. One thing I love about the Platinum ATD series is the preset drag lever (not just a knob.) So even though I am not of an income level that can really justify owning these reels, I have sprung for 3 Twinspins and 2 ATD reels. And I have done a ton of research and find very few problems that were not resolved.

But my opinion of the Boss 665 wide 2-speed--from my experience and researching that of others: It sucks like the black hole at the center of the Milky Way. Other than that, it is fine. My latest version gets used only for light duty such as near shore oil rigs--and with my luck that is the reel with which I will hook up with a world-record yellowfin within sight of the Port Aransas jetties.

Russ

[xs_tackle]

Originally Posted by Mitchw123456

I don't see why people are stuck on Accurates so much. I was going to buy a few of them but you hear more people complaining about Accurates than you do any of the big players in offshore reel lines.. Why pay twice as much for a reel that fail on a regular basis?

Mitch: You could ask the same question--but I won't--for any and every product. Most anglers on this board are very experimental; I expect they'd be just as experimental about their chosen reels.

Accurate ATD reels have a lot of appeal for lots of folks who want well-engineered, well-made and well-supported reels. When I first bought ATD's, I carried my old standby Penn Intl's 2-speeded and blueprinted by Cal Sheets as backups for several years. When I found them unnecessary on even 10- and 17-day trips, I sold them. Although I always want reels that do not need service ever (I want a reel, not a relationship), I found Accurate's customer service--including the annual servicings included in the original price--prompt and attentive. I especially like the smoothness of the drags on my ATD's.

For Accurate, like everyone else who learns from experience, new product launch brings a learning curve; and, I understand they ran into a bad batch of gears in their B2-665's. When I encountered one (it didn't spoil my trip; I carry backup reels), they replaced it and returned my B2-665 it in a week--no charge. I also like the form factor and the innards of the reel. They've also done other favors for me. I expect the larger B2-30's and 50's to require some work over the next year, then stabilize. If that's a killer, during that year, don't rely on one--buy none or carry more than one reel for the job.

If my experience with their present or future products changes, I'll respond accordingly. Now, you have another data point for why folks will buy an ATD.

[Mitchw123456]

If Accurates costomer service is so great why are customers like Uncle Russ afraid to put a real bind on their reels? We all know these reels weren't made for "light duty" yet some won't trust them under heavy duty situations. I have many, many different brands of reels so I'm not 'stuck' on a brand but during all of my searching on the net and talking to previous owners it seemed many just weren't happy with them. I'm not trying to bash Accurate by any means, but for the price they charge you should have 100% faith all the time in the tackle you are using.

[d-a]

Originally Posted by Mitchw123456

If Accurates costomer service is so great why are customers like Uncle Russ afraid to put a real bind on their reels? We all know these reels weren't made for "light duty" yet some won't trust them under heavy duty situations. I have many, many different brands of reels so I'm not 'stuck' on a brand but during all of my searching on the net and talking to previous owners it seemed many just weren't happy with them. I'm not trying to bash Accurate by any means, but for the price they charge you should have 100% faith all the time in the tackle you are using.

Mitch,

I don't think Uncle Russ is afraid to put the 665 in a bind because of there customer service. Its more of the fact he has had a couple break on him and his trust in the reel is not there anymore. If you don't have faith in a reel then you wont want to use it. Till the gear issue gets resolved there will be some guys that feel that way. Of course UR has more money than sense so he has 4 backup reels for each one he uses.

d-a

[jig]

It is all about faith in your tackle. I used to fish Newells exclusively; never had a failure so I fished them 100%, with complete confidence. Switched only due to falling in love with 2spd reels. I have a 665w, no failures, fished hard. So i have a different perspective than Russ. Because of our respective experiences with the reel, each of us is 'right.'