Topwaters??? - Page 2

Deep_Sea_Gull · 02-13-2007, 04:27 PM

Welcome to the forum CAP.

etan · 02-13-2007, 09:23 PM

2 or 3 years ago we caught some AJ on poppers at the floaters, Boom Vang I think. They were hanging close to the rig and you could see them chasing your lure. That year was the only time I heard of them being there.

Pope · 02-13-2007, 10:50 PM

I am thinking CAP meant jack crevalles

AJ hunter · 02-14-2007, 12:49 PM

I agree with the Pope. I've had jack crevalle tear the paint of every cheap lure in my tacklebox. AJs don't have big enough teeth to do that, though they could break small hooks intended for trout. However, I've never seen them closer than about 9 miles from shore in the Eastern GOM, though if the water was deeper, say 50ft or more, and there was structure like a sunken bridgespan, they'd find a way to get there.

Snap Draggin · 11-11-2007, 08:30 PM

I am new at the quest for AJ. Will they hit dead bait as well as live? Everything I am reading on here states that they pretty much prefer live bait or jigs. What type of jigs work best?

Snagged · 11-11-2007, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Snap Draggin

I am new at the quest for AJ. Will they hit dead bait as well as live? Everything I am reading on here states that they pretty much prefer live bait or jigs. What type of jigs work best?

I've caught a few on cut bait but they were undersized.
Big AJ really want BIG live baits and it takes serious drag to keep them out of the rigs. As to which jigs work best depends on the day and the AJ.

SpecialK · 11-11-2007, 09:58 PM

We ussually bait a whole dead squid. Run the hook throught the top and agian in the bottom. Then just drop it down.

xs_tackle · 11-11-2007, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamOso

. . . big topwaters for AJ at the rigs. Kevin

If you mean to catch them, expect to straighten a lot of hooks. Most large topwaters (8", 4oz; all brands) are sold w/ hooks inadequate for large AJ.

Snap Draggin · 11-11-2007, 10:08 PM

Have you caught any big uns on the squid rig?

Fishhead56 · 11-11-2007, 10:27 PM

Another storie from the 70's, working offshore before video movies, sat tv and such. My standby time was passed by drinking coffe and playing poker or messing with the fish. One daily event would be when the galley scrapes would be dumped over the side (in day light) and the turd rustlers (hard tales) would go into a feeding frenzy then the AJ's would storm up from the depths and kick butt on the rustlers. 80 to 100 miles out of Cameron and Sabine pass seemed to have the larger AJ's. As far as when I'd hang a hooked hard tale on the surface, ala kite fishing. I could get the Cudas
to hit along with Kings and even a Bull Drarado once but don't remember
getting a AJ to eat a surface bait. But dropping a Buck or feather Jig down 50ft. while the Galley scrapes were being dumped and an AJ would take it to the rig legs straight away.

When the comercial boats would show up they would drop hand lined hard tales to 50 - 70 ft only when targeting AJ's. I too feel AJ's will race up and down the water colum to feed. 200 feet might seem like a long way when
your cranking up a fish. But it's just a quick dash when your a 60 lb gray bomb.

02-13-2007, 09:23 PM	#12 (permalink)
etan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 184	AJ at the floaters 2 or 3 years ago we caught some AJ on poppers at the floaters, Boom Vang I think. They were hanging close to the rig and you could see them chasing your lure. That year was the only time I heard of them being there.

02-13-2007, 10:50 PM	#13 (permalink)
Pope Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 682	I am thinking CAP meant jack crevalles __________________ Pope...translates to "nightmare" in Tunenglish

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02-13-2007, 04:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
Deep_Sea_Gull Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: GA Posts: 599	Welcome to the forum CAP.

02-14-2007, 12:49 PM	#14 (permalink)
AJ hunter Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 38	I agree with the Pope. I've had jack crevalle tear the paint of every cheap lure in my tacklebox. AJs don't have big enough teeth to do that, though they could break small hooks intended for trout. However, I've never seen them closer than about 9 miles from shore in the Eastern GOM, though if the water was deeper, say 50ft or more, and there was structure like a sunken bridgespan, they'd find a way to get there.

11-11-2007, 08:30 PM	#15 (permalink)
Snap Draggin Junior member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 12	I am new at the quest for AJ. Will they hit dead bait as well as live? Everything I am reading on here states that they pretty much prefer live bait or jigs. What type of jigs work best?

11-11-2007, 09:58 PM	#17 (permalink)
SpecialK Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 291	We ussually bait a whole dead squid. Run the hook throught the top and agian in the bottom. Then just drop it down.

11-11-2007, 10:08 PM	#19 (permalink)
Snap Draggin Junior member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 12	Have you caught any big uns on the squid rig?

11-11-2007, 10:27 PM	#20 (permalink)
Fishhead56 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Galveston County Posts: 315	Another storie from the 70's, working offshore before video movies, sat tv and such. My standby time was passed by drinking coffe and playing poker or messing with the fish. One daily event would be when the galley scrapes would be dumped over the side (in day light) and the turd rustlers (hard tales) would go into a feeding frenzy then the AJ's would storm up from the depths and kick butt on the rustlers. 80 to 100 miles out of Cameron and Sabine pass seemed to have the larger AJ's. As far as when I'd hang a hooked hard tale on the surface, ala kite fishing. I could get the Cudas to hit along with Kings and even a Bull Drarado once but don't remember getting a AJ to eat a surface bait. But dropping a Buck or feather Jig down 50ft. while the Galley scrapes were being dumped and an AJ would take it to the rig legs straight away. When the comercial boats would show up they would drop hand lined hard tales to 50 - 70 ft only when targeting AJ's. I too feel AJ's will race up and down the water colum to feed. 200 feet might seem like a long way when your cranking up a fish. But it's just a quick dash when your a 60 lb gray bomb.

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