Appropriate for election tuesday

VaRandy · 10-30-2008, 03:42 PM

War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.
--John Stuart Mills

Bret · 10-30-2008, 03:45 PM

Amen!!!!

BretABaker · 10-30-2008, 03:46 PM

only thing i ask is that if you dont like either candidate...you should still vote. i wont vote for either mccain or obama bc i don't fully support either...but i'm still writing in my vote (yes everyone, i am a true republican...not a liberal dont worry) because i think its important to at least try. i know my candidate won't win, but 3rd parties will never grow and become real threats unless people make the effort.

just my .02

Bret · 10-30-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BretABaker

only thing i ask is that if you dont like either candidate...you should still vote. i wont vote for either mccain or obama bc i don't fully support either...but i'm still writing in my vote (yes everyone, i am a true republican...not a liberal dont worry) because i think its important to at least try. i know my candidate won't win, but 3rd parties will never grow and become real threats unless people make the effort.

just my .02

You are right.. if you dont vote,, you have no right to biatch and complain.... didnt know we had censoring....

spineyman · 10-30-2008, 05:29 PM

I disagree with you whole heartedly. I wouldn't vote for Obama for all the money left in the world and a vote for third party is first of all wasted and secondly I think we all need to vote for the lesser of 2 evils. In other words the one that can and will do the least amount of damage. Obama wants to take from the hard working people and give it to the lazy non working bums. That is stupid to say the least. If you don't work then you don't eat.

SpecialK · 10-30-2008, 06:19 PM

Some of Obamas earlier speeched from 2000 2001 and the like sound like he leans towards socialism. I am scared of what either candidate will do but I agree with spineyman. The lesser of 2 evils is definately the way to go.
I typically would vote democratic but not in this case...

MrBill · 10-30-2008, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by spineyman

If you don't work then you don't eat.

100% the way it should be.
Entitlements have ruined America.

SpecialK · 10-30-2008, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBill

100% the way it should be.
Entitlements have ruined America.

Don't get me started on Union labor entitlements....
You just said a mouthfull.

Deep_Sea_Gull · 10-30-2008, 09:18 PM

Third party vote in this election is the same as an Obama vote in my opinion.

That is your right. I respect it.

Please do vote. It will count.

I did defend that right...

Uncle Russ · 10-30-2008, 10:33 PM

I respectfully do not agree with the proposition that if you don't vote you have no right to complain. However, I do agree that the risk of not voting is to live with a result you may not like. There may be no harm in this man Obama--but if only half what we suspect turns out to be true, there is significant risk. There is much wrong with the Republican Party, and not being too very far to the right, there is much that President Bush stood for with which I disagree. But that having been said, consider the risk of placing a man who once would not have winced at the "socialist" label in the Oval Office--backed by a huge majority in the most liberal Congress in history. Add to that the fact that he seems to be held to no standard by his supporters AND the sad fact that the once proud institution of print and broadcast journalism has literally collapsed in support of candidacy. He associates with felons, terrorists, and anti-Americans with impunity, and again--nooone holds him responsible. He spends only a few months actually in the Senate doing Senate work and manages to vote "present" over a hundred times.

Yes there is much risk here my friends.

But the good news is that the polls are getting tighter. And even though McCain has played pretty with the Reverend Wright/Bill Ayers controversies, it is my understanding that we will be hit with millions of dollars worth of replays by Republicans who simply don't give a %$#& what McCain thinks.

I don't know what's going to be harder on this old heart--Tuesday's election or Saturday night's Tech game. What's a mother to do?

Russ

10-30-2008, 03:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
VaRandy Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hanover Va Posts: 62	Appropriate for election tuesday War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. --John Stuart Mills __________________ Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions. --G.K. Chesterton

10-30-2008, 10:33 PM	#10 (permalink)
Uncle Russ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,146	I respectfully do not agree with the proposition that if you don't vote you have no right to complain. However, I do agree that the risk of not voting is to live with a result you may not like. There may be no harm in this man Obama--but if only half what we suspect turns out to be true, there is significant risk. There is much wrong with the Republican Party, and not being too very far to the right, there is much that President Bush stood for with which I disagree. But that having been said, consider the risk of placing a man who once would not have winced at the "socialist" label in the Oval Office--backed by a huge majority in the most liberal Congress in history. Add to that the fact that he seems to be held to no standard by his supporters AND the sad fact that the once proud institution of print and broadcast journalism has literally collapsed in support of candidacy. He associates with felons, terrorists, and anti-Americans with impunity, and again--nooone holds him responsible. He spends only a few months actually in the Senate doing Senate work and manages to vote "present" over a hundred times. Yes there is much risk here my friends. But the good news is that the polls are getting tighter. And even though McCain has played pretty with the Reverend Wright/Bill Ayers controversies, it is my understanding that we will be hit with millions of dollars worth of replays by Republicans who simply don't give a %$#& what McCain thinks. I don't know what's going to be harder on this old heart--Tuesday's election or Saturday night's Tech game. What's a mother to do? Russ __________________ "Tschirhart: Helluva deal. You bait the hooks--I catch the fish!--Grimm."

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10-30-2008, 03:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
Bret Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: DFW Posts: 1,223	Amen!!!!

10-30-2008, 03:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
BretABaker Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pearland, TX Posts: 1,473	only thing i ask is that if you dont like either candidate...you should still vote. i wont vote for either mccain or obama bc i don't fully support either...but i'm still writing in my vote (yes everyone, i am a true republican...not a liberal dont worry) because i think its important to at least try. i know my candidate won't win, but 3rd parties will never grow and become real threats unless people make the effort. just my .02

10-30-2008, 05:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
spineyman Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: fishing out of Destin Posts: 173	I disagree with you whole heartedly. I wouldn't vote for Obama for all the money left in the world and a vote for third party is first of all wasted and secondly I think we all need to vote for the lesser of 2 evils. In other words the one that can and will do the least amount of damage. Obama wants to take from the hard working people and give it to the lazy non working bums. That is stupid to say the least. If you don't work then you don't eat.

10-30-2008, 06:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
SpecialK Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 482	Some of Obamas earlier speeched from 2000 2001 and the like sound like he leans towards socialism. I am scared of what either candidate will do but I agree with spineyman. The lesser of 2 evils is definately the way to go. I typically would vote democratic but not in this case...

10-30-2008, 09:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
Deep_Sea_Gull Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: GA Posts: 619	Third party vote in this election is the same as an Obama vote in my opinion. That is your right. I respect it. Please do vote. It will count. I did defend that right...

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